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[Albion] Marc Cucurella *Signed For Chelsea 05/08/2022*



Springal

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Marc Cucurella *SINGS on a five-year contract*

Not too difficult you say, really? Cucu is the best left back to play for the club in many a long year, and you think we can easily find a replacement, just like that?

I'm afraid l don't agree.

Maybe not at the level he’s at now, but he can’t even get in the Spain squad (yes of course Jordi Alba & Alonso in front) so there’s others out there. And like I say (and I was sceptical) that the recruitment team always have options for players should any leave, so there should be a short list of at least 2 if that’s true
 




chaileyjem

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Marc Cucurella *SINGS on a five-year contract*

indeed he will. if it makes business sense he will accept a reduced fee. we have to stop putting Bloom up on a pedestal. Sure he will get close to what he wants but he may have to concede something, to think otherwise is just unrealistic and naive.

He’s in a strong position here though. Cucurella has years of his contract to run, he doesn’t need the money for debt or signings, and City have been clear how much they rate him - but of course it’s a negotiation and he has to consider the future of the player who’s reps have already been to MCR this summer. .
Anyway they haven’t bid yet - there’s no 100% guarantee they even will. Although that would be a surprise…
 


Clive Walker

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He’s in a strong position here though. Cucurella has years of his contract to run, he doesn’t need the money for debt or signings, and City have been clear how much they rate him - but of course it’s a negotiation and he has to consider the future of the player who’s reps have already been to MCR this summer. .
Anyway they haven’t bid yet - there’s no 100% guarantee they even will. Although that would be a surprise…

Oh undoubtedly a strong position. However, the club have always said that they will not stand in the way of a move if it benefits the player and the club. Cucu obviously would give his right hand to play for city. It really is the stuff of dreams for him. Bloom may well want £60m. City may offer £30m. I can veery much see him going somewhere in between to suit all parties IF city actually make a bid.

Bloom isn’t a fortune teller. He can’t predict the market in 6months to a year. He can’t predict how Cucu will perform or what his injury stays will be. He may decide it makes business sense not to hold ransom here and accept a decent offer if it means he can reinvest and not have a potentially difficult player within a currently harmonious group.

To think it’s straight for and simple is naive. So many factors in this other than simply making city pay a price.
 


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indeed he will. if it makes business sense he will accept a reduced fee. we have to stop putting Bloom up on a pedestal. Sure he will get close to what he wants but he may have to concede something, to think otherwise is just unrealistic and naive.

Reduced from what ? You don't know what his starting point is, nor what 'conceding something' means (what did he to with Ben White and Arsenal ?). As regards a pedestal, he should be on a massive one for the way runs (and has funded) the club.
 


dazzer6666

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Oh undoubtedly a strong position. However, the club have always said that they will not stand in the way of a move if it benefits the player and the club. Cucu obviously would give his right hand to play for city. It really is the stuff of dreams for him. Bloom may well want £60m. City may offer £30m. I can veery much see him going somewhere in between to suit all parties IF city actually make a bid.

Bloom isn’t a fortune teller. He can’t predict the market in 6months to a year. He can’t predict how Cucu will perform or what his injury stays will be. He may decide it makes business sense not to hold ransom here and accept a decent offer if it means he can reinvest and not have a potentially difficult player within a currently harmonious group.

To think it’s straight for and simple is naive. So many factors in this other than simply making city pay a price.

30 v 60....so you'll be back on here when Bloom regretfully accepts £50m plus add-ons claiming you were right :lol::lol:
 




FatSuperman

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If City offer 10m under our 'asking price' and Cucu will be p##sed off if refused we would probably sell.

Lets get real, should City want the player they will make this happen!

What if they offer £15m less and Cucu gets pee'd off that we refuse?
What if they offer £20m less...
Etc...

You are talking about where our line really is, and where we say it is. As others have said, I don't see how a player with a contract, who wasn't bid on by City last year, can force a move in the way you suggest. Bloom has to balance keeping that player happy, the fans happy, other current players happy, prove to future players that we won't stand in the way of progress, make it clear to to current and future players that we won't be messed about, and to other clubs and agents that we won't be low-balled and cheated. You are intimating that the only element under consideration is annoying the player and pushing away future players. And by the way, those future players won't come here if there is a sniff of a massive club already looking anyway... why did Cucu choose us last year?

It is far from the simple situation some are suggesting. These things are not clear cut and easy. And is Cucu really going to totally down tools because something didn't work right away? One would expect not, January or next summer won't go well if he's been in a sulk all year, and it's not like he's on £300k a week. Besides, surely he should be upset with the buying club lowballing, when the rumours say he is their number 1 target this summer. If he believes his own legend, and he's a professional, he'll understand that BHA aren't honour bound to just accept whatever paltry offer comes our way.

Like we've said before, players can throw a strop at the manager, but it doesn't work as well with billionaire owners. A season in the u23's won't help anyone at all.
 


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Just listened to the interview. Something not mentioned in the write up is the sigh followed by a long pause before he answered. Of course as he says every player has their price. It is obvious that he will not allow anyone to know what he would accept until that figure is reached. The rest, here or elsewhere is pure rubbish.

If City go public anywhere with their intent, I would say the value would rocket. There will be acting like pricks surcharge
 
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Clive Walker

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Reduced from what ? You don't know what his starting point is, nor what 'conceding something' means (what did he to with Ben White and Arsenal ?). As regards a pedestal, he should be on a massive one for the way runs (and has funded) the club.

Don’t disagree. But he isn’t the master of transfer dealings like some people on here suggest.
 




Springal

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Looks like City will get £40M-£45M for Ake , wonder if the might get things moving ?
 




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Reduced from what ? You don't know what his starting point is, nor what 'conceding something' means (what did he to with Ben White and Arsenal ?). As regards a pedestal, he should be on a massive one for the way runs (and has funded) the club.
Reduced from what? - well, he didn't specify, did he. None of us know what figure Bloom has in mind - but are there circumstances in which Bloom might calculate the odds on compromising a little are better than not compromising at all - of course there are!

30 v 60....so you'll be back on here when Bloom regretfully accepts £50m plus add-ons claiming you were right :lol::lol:
No, he woudn't be oming on saying he was right, because he's nevee said that Bloom will accept any particuar figure - but if Bloom does accept a £50M plus add-ons, many of us would be neither greatly surprised or disappointed. Personally I think as trends are going in this window, £50M plus wouldn't be bad at all.
 




Justice

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He’s in a strong position here though. Cucurella has years of his contract to run, he doesn’t need the money for debt or signings, and City have been clear how much they rate him - but of course it’s a negotiation and he has to consider the future of the player who’s reps have already been to MCR this summer. .
Anyway they haven’t bid yet - there’s no 100% guarantee they even will. Although that would be a surprise…
Have City even said anything official, looks like fan talk to me.
 




Not Andy Naylor

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Ben White was PotS, with 4 years left on his contract and homegrown and he went for £50m. You could take the view that our history suggests £50m is enough.

That was then, this is now. Inflation in football is even higher than in the real world! If City can get £40-45m for Ake, then Cucurella must easily be worth £60m. If City want him, for which there is still no concrete evidence.
 






nickbrighton

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According to Manchester media City will put in a bid for him any day now

that has been said since before the window opened. Terms agreed, bid in a couple of days, first bid turned down etc

He may well go, he may well stay, but ALL the reports we see are just rubbish until we see him holdingbthe shirt
 








Mellotron

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I reckon we might get one more year out of him.

That, or we get silly money. Like £65m+.
 




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