Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[Wozza]

And Glastonbury I assume

Yes, I think so - annoyingly. Was due to go.

But can you imagine, say, 500 out of 250,000 falling ill with Coronavirus on a single day?

How would you get them out of there in isolation? And that's just 0.2% of festival-goers.

And everyone else would be worried that they've caught it.

(Doubt artists will be travelling around anyway)

 

[Rodney Thomas]

Lets try and not find out. That "3.4" will increase, significantly.
Also saw that 40% of those in ICU are under 60

Please can you provide a reference when adding a new piece of info.

 

[Eeyore]

It hasn't let you down, blind tribalism let's people down.

There's good and bad in people of all political parties. And something like this epedemic out of nowhere has nothing to do with usual partisan political thinking, it's neither right wing or left, leave or remain.

You'd assume if Corbyn was PM the advice and decisions would be same/similar. Still think we're not doing enough to curtail it, but agree getting on with it, but also being sensible is the only way forward.

I should imagine exactly the same. I would think the government (as in politicians) have little to do with anything. They will just sit there and say 'yes' to the experts and administrators. Sensible thing to do.

 

[Nixonator]

In Italy doctors are already having to decide who lives and who doesnt

A reference for this would also be good.

 

[Sorrel]

The "good" news is these Italian measures will give us a decent idea of whether such restrictions will get results. The big unknown is how long the measures need to be in place. There's got to be a likelihood of ending the restrictions too soon and then having to return to them.

China's full on lockdown seems to have worked, but Wuhan has been on lockdown since the 23rd of January, so entering their 7th week now. If we start around the 23rd of March, then we might be getting out again mid May.

 

[SIMMO SAYS]

A reference for this would also be good.

Noddy and Big Ears on holiday.

 

[peterward]

Italy now gone full quarantine for the whole country - just a couple of weeks ago they only had a handful of cases. Cannot see how we wont be the same in a little bit more time?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-51810673

 

[Raphael Meade]

I have a feeling the inept and rudderless US government may be about to start taking things seriously...

Multiple republican congressman are in isolation after coming into 'sustained contact' with a CPAC (right wing annual conference) attendee tested positive for the virus. Interestingly, one of those having to self isolate is the congressman who wore a full gas mask on the floor in a mocking stunt during a vote to authorize funds for fighting the epidemic last week. That same congressman traveled on Air Force 1 with Trump just this afternoon...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...ckdown-anxiety-grows-d-c-n1152886/ncrd1153621

 

[crookie]

Are they? They’re actually doing that? Really?

Report on C4 News tonight from an Italian hospital. Reporter says doctors already having to make decisions of who to give respirators to as they haven't enough. Giving them to those with the best chance of survival

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[Bozza]

Are they? They’re actually doing that? Really?

Yep - I certainly saw or heard this on a news report yesterday. A quick google threw up this - https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...s-italian-doctor-covid-19-christian-salaroli/

This is the same "three wise men" protocol expected to come into play, if required, in UK hospitals where three senior consultants have to choose who gets a chance to be saved and who doesn't - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

Incredibly some people still seem to think this is some sort of media frenzy and there's not much going on bar a few old people dieing who were going to die anyway.

 

[rogersix]

Are they? They’re actually doing that? Really?

you seem a little edgy?

 

[Giraffe]

So 500,000 die in the UK every year apparently. What increase on this number would people consider to be a disaster?

100? (0.02%)
1,000? (0.2%)
10,000? (2%)
20,000? (4%)

 

[LamieRobertson]

Yep - I certainly saw or heard this on a news report yesterday. A quick google threw up this - https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...s-italian-doctor-covid-19-christian-salaroli/

This is the same "three wise men" protocol expected to come into play, if required, in UK hospitals where three senior consultants have to choose who gets a chance to be saved and who doesn't - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

[I]Incredibly some people still seem to think this is some sort of media frenzy and there's not much going on[/I] bar a few old people dieing who were going to die anyway.

My portfolio has taken a severe hammering this past week

 

[beorhthelm]

So 500,000 die in the UK every year apparently. What increase on this number would people consider to be a disaster?

100? (0.02%)
1,000? (0.2%)
10,000? (2%)
20,000? (4%)

how does 50% around 250k sit? thats 2% of 20% of the population.

 

[Poojah]

Yep - I certainly saw or heard this on a news report yesterday. A quick google threw up this - https://www.brusselstimes.com/all-n...s-italian-doctor-covid-19-christian-salaroli/

This is the same "three wise men" protocol expected to come into play, if required, in UK hospitals where three senior consultants have to choose who gets a chance to be saved and who doesn't - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...sive-care-flu-wise-men-protocol-a9361916.html

Incredibly some people still seem to think this is some sort of media frenzy and there's not much going on bar a few old people dieing who were going to die anyway.

Interesting quote:

—

Asked about the Italian government’s decision to quarantine more than 15 million people in northern Italy in an attempt to contain the epidemic, Salaroli said it was “fair but a week late.”

What matters now, he said, is to “stay at home, stay at home. I keep repeating it over and over again. I see too many people on the street, you have no idea what is happening,” he said.

—

Take heed.

 

[sparkie]

Perhaps they had the vaccine all along!

Perhaps Covid-19 is the vaccine for the really nasty bio-weapon in the next door lab!

 

[Justice]

My portfolio has taken a severe hammering this past week

Should of hedged

 

[Deleted member 22389]

My cousin who is in Southern Italy is now staying in. He put a message on Facebook telling people to please listen to the government, I can understand why. The trouble with older generations, is they simply will not listen and think they know better.

 

[OzMike]

I am flying on the 30th March, I hadn't thought about the upgrade option. I will definitely be asking.

Are you getting to a game?

I will hope to get to both the Liverpool and Man City games in at the Amex.
Never seen a game there yet, last time I was back it was under construction and the security guy let me in for a couple of sneaky photos when I explained I was flying back in a couple of days.
Shame I won't be seeing any winnable games !

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

My cousin who is in Southern Italy is now staying in. He put a message on Facebook telling people to please listen to the government, I can understand why. The trouble with older generations, is they simply will not listen and think they know better.

The Italian government has been criticising young people who are clubbing etc and are ignoring the advice.

BTW from Sky News and very alarming:

Nearly 20% of confirmed cases in Italy have been fatal so far, making the fatality rate apparently much higher than in other parts of the world, where scientists have tentatively estimated the fatality rate to be between 1-3%.

Except it makes no sense as they have about 9000 confirmed cases. I assume that's cases to a resolution?