Main Coronavirus / Covid-19 Discussion Thread

[The Clamp]

Your gran might see it differently.

She doesn’t. She thinks the entire thing is overblown nonsense. She’s 96 and never taken to her bed for a day in her life.

Besides the wisdom of old folk, there have been many sensible experts on various radio programs cutting through the bluster and talking sense.

The general consensus is that the media have caused chaos and panic buying and no real measures need be taken. The virus will spread and people will get ill. Better to let it run it’s course and level out. With priority medical attention being given to that most vulnerable.
And wallys who turn up to A&E with a sniffle “just in case”, nee to be sent home with a flea in their ear.

This will pass and become as relevant as the millennium bug.

 

[The Clamp]

Nice view from a supposed socialist

Am I a supposed socialist?

Anyway, I deal in facts. The vast, vast, VAST majority of those infected will feel no more than a light cold.
Numbers of infected are irrelevant if the consequences don’t really matter.
You may as well panic over the statistics on the amount of households that own one or more pair of Wellington boots. It’s about as relevant.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Italy has quarantined 16m people. Utterly ridiculous. The virus doesn’t actually do much harm even if it does infect 80% of a population.
This world needs to get a grip on itself.

Easyjet don't seem unduly bothered by the quarantine, there's half a dozen flights a day in each direction still scheduled between Gatwick and Milan

 

[Lower West Stander]

Not sure I’ve seen any suggestion anywhere that people aren’t just going about their business*, but it sounds like you read/watch different things to me.


(* - they’re just topping up with pasta and bog rolls whilst they’re doing it)

You’re completely missing my point.

The normality with which people are conducting their day to day lives is in direct contrast to what we are reading and seeing in the media. A city centre was full of people and no one was wearing a mask. If everything was to be believed, no one would have been there and those daring to go out would’ve been wearing boiler suits.


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[wellquickwoody]

She doesn’t. She thinks the entire thing is overblown nonsense. She’s 96 and never taken to her bed for a day in her life.

Besides the wisdom of old folk, there have been many sensible experts on various radio programs cutting through the bluster and talking sense.

The general consensus is that the media have caused chaos and panic buying and no real measures need be taken. The virus will spread and people will get ill. Better to let it run it’s course and level out. With priority medical attention being given to that most vulnerable.
And wallys who turn up to A&E with a sniffle “just in case”, nee to be sent home with a flea in their ear.

This will pass and become as relevant as the millennium bug.

Whilst I generally concur with you on this topic, media overblown, panic buying idiots, the flea in their ear is a great idea, the thought that your 96 year old gran has never taken a bed day is stretching it a little. Proper flu means you do not get out of your bed except for toilet duties, and I am sure your gran may have had flu once or twice in nearly a century! In all seriousness, wish your gran well for me good innings.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Am I a supposed socialist?

Anyway, I deal in facts. The vast, vast, VAST majority of those infected will feel no more than a light cold.
Numbers of infected are irrelevant if the consequences don’t really matter.
You may as well panic over the statistics on the amount of households that own one or more pair of Wellington boots. It’s about as relevant.

OK I won’t panic that my wife is disabled,suffering from a very rare lung condition, compounded by brittle asthma, been resuscitated 4 occasions and will certainly be at very high risk if she contracted the virus.

Society is supposedly there to look after the unfortunate.

 

[Lower West Stander]

The constant media hype around it has so much to answer for. I can't watch BBC news at the moment as it's just ridiculous - first 20 minutes or so of any broadcast repeating the same stories over and over again. Other than idiots stockpiling bog role and pasta it's good to see most of the country carrying on as normal - town was packed yesterday as per for a Saturday and so were the pubs and bars.

Totally agree with you.

I’ve stopped watching the news and just flick through the multiple hysteria in the online papers I read.


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[PILTDOWN MAN]

It’ll spread panic and put more strain on medical services. Useless anyway, the Italians couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery. It’s why they have the high rate of infection despite having the most restrictions in place.

I work for a company that owns 3 breweries in Italy, again you’re talking bollocks, the piss ups are stupendous.

 

[knocky1]

OK I won’t panic that my wife is disabled,suffering from a very rare lung condition, compounded by brittle asthma, been resuscitated 4 occasions and will certainly be at very high risk if she contracted the virus.

Society is supposedly there to look after the unfortunates

Absolutely. Instead there is a massive "**** you Jack, I'm alright" from right, left and centre.

 

[Hugo Rune]

Whilst I generally concur with you on this topic, media overblown

It’s not the media that are overblowing so much. The government have openly announced that they are preparing for 100,000 deaths. Have the media sensationalised this? No.

Orwellian political procedure dictates that a government full of privileged, power hungry nasty talentless pigs (such as the one we have) should create a ‘common enemy’ (Coronavirus) to deflect from their own incompetence and shady decisions. The media are underplaying their messages now because they know what the awful cretins are up to.

Top things to deflect:

1. Huge tax cuts for the rich and privileged in the next budget.
2. Priti Patel.
3. The vanished ‘Russian report’.
4. The Prime Minister’s compulsive lies.
5. Priti Patel.

 

[The Clamp]

Whilst I generally concur with you on this topic, media overblown, panic buying idiots, the flea in their ear is a great idea, the thought that your 96 year old gran has never taken a bed day is stretching it a little. Proper flu means you do not get out of your bed except for toilet duties, and I am sure your gran may have had flu once or twice in nearly a century! In all seriousness, wish your gran well for me good innings.

Thanks, appreciate that.

I think she once slept in until 9am one day in ‘76 after one too many sherry’s.

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

It’s not the media that are overblowing so much. The government have openly announced that they are preparing for 100,000 deaths. Have the media sensationalised this? No.

Orwellian political procedure dictates that a government full of privileged, power hungry nasty talentless pigs (such as the one we have) should create a ‘common enemy’ (Coronavirus) to deflect from their own incompetence and shady decisions. The media are underplaying their messages now because they know what the awful cretins are up to.

Top things to deflect:

1. Huge tax cuts for the rich and privileged in the next budget.
2. Priti Patel.
3. The vanished ‘Russian report’.
4. The Prime Minister’s compulsive lies.
5. Priti Patel.

Yeah cos coronavirus is only affecting the UK so it's all the government's plot.

 

[The Clamp]

OK I won’t panic that my wife is disabled,suffering from a very rare lung condition, compounded by brittle asthma, been resuscitated 4 occasions and will certainly be at very high risk if she contracted the virus.

Society is supposedly there to look after the unfortunate.

As I said, priority to be given to the most vulnerable. And no, you shouldn’t panic. Appropriate concern and contingency planning beats panic every time.

 

[The Clamp]

I work for a company that owns 3 breweries in Italy, again you’re talking bollocks, the piss ups are stupendous.

That might account for a lot

 

[Hugo Rune]

Yeah cos coronavirus is only affecting the UK so it's all the government's plot.

It’s not a plot, it’s a strategy to overplay the threat as much as possible to deflect scrutiny.

Will up to a thousand people sadly die in the UK of the virus - perhaps. 100,000 - **** off!

There has only been just over 3,000 deaths in heavily populated China. If you’ve been over there you’d have noticed that everybody constantly spits, they spit here there and everywhere, they constantly form spit puddles on the bus or in restaurants. Despite this, they are containing the spread and it’s slowing down. Right down.

 

[Triggaaar]

Italy has quarantined 16m people. Utterly ridiculous. The virus doesn’t actually do much harm even if it does infect 80% of a population.

In the UK, that would mean over 50 million people catch it. Most would be fine, but millions would need a high level of care, which clearly wouldn't be available, as hospitals can't take on an extra few million patients. A lack of care would mean a higher fatality rate, but even if it was only 1%, then that's half a million deaths, as well as the other deaths caused by an NHS which wouldn't be able to cope.

If we can slow the spread down and hope that summer also helps stop it, we can hopefully keep the pressure on medical staff down, and hopefully have a vaccine ready before as much as 80% of the population get it.

It’ll spread panic and put more strain on medical services.

Why would panicking put much more strain on medical services? Having a rampant, unchecked virus is what would put the most strain on medical services.

Useless anyway, the Italians couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery. It’s why they have the high rate of infection despite having the most restrictions in place.

They have started applying restrictions because of the high rate of infection. Obviously had they had the restrictions in place earlier, the infections wouldn't have been so high.

 

[DumLum]

It’ll spread panic and put more strain on medical services. Useless anyway, the Italians couldn’t organise a piss up in a brewery. It’s why they have the high rate of infection despite having the most restrictions in place.

Surely the highest rates of infections are in the countries that had it first? If we carry on as normal we will soon catch up and bring the NHS to it's knees.

 

[Triggaaar]

The general consensus is that the media have caused chaos and panic buying

The panic buying is stupid, but whenever I see the news about it, they remind people that there's no shortage of products and we don't need to panic buy. The panic buying is caused by stupid selfish people, it's not all the fault of the media.

The virus will spread and people will get ill. Better to let it run it’s course and level out.

No, that is not the general consensus, you're talking rubbish.

And wallys who turn up to A&E with a sniffle “just in case”, nee to be sent home with a flea in their ear.

Obviously.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

In the UK, that would mean over 50 million people catch it. Most would be fine, but millions would need a high level of care, which clearly wouldn't be available, as hospitals can't take on an extra few million patients. A lack of care would mean a higher fatality rate, but even if it was only 1%, then that's half a million deaths, as well as the other deaths caused by an NHS which wouldn't be able to cope.

If we can slow the spread down and hope that summer also helps stop it, we can hopefully keep the pressure on medical staff down, and hopefully have a vaccine ready before as much as 80% of the population get it.

Why would panicking put much more strain on medical services? Having a rampant, unchecked virus is what would put the most strain on medical services.
They have started applying restrictions because of the high rate of infection. Obviously had they had the restrictions in place earlier, the infections wouldn't have been so high.

Sorry you’re wrong, because it’s an over reaction due to 96 year who was lucky to not be bombed in the war, never had a dangerous illness or got a life threatening disease or got cancer. She never had a days illness in life so why would anyone else. Might as well shut down the nhs, don’t need it.

 

[Mancgull]

c600,000 people die every year in the UK. Not sure how many of those are from heart disease but I expect a lot. I still see plenty of obese people about.