If the club and Poyet kiss and make up...

[Mellotron]

How many times has he said he wants to manage another club, either at a higher level or one he has contacts with in the past?

May I suggest you go to your partner and say that although you are happy at present, as soon as someone comes along with bigger tits I'm off.

TB

Utter bollocks. Gus has always talked about what he wants to do in the future. A football manager is NOT the same as a partner, you don't have a manager for life. The analogy doesn't work. I have no issue with our manager having ambition.

 

[Giraffe]

Of all the realistic alternative managers that I've seen promoted on the board as possible replacements not one has both the managerial skills of Poyet and an unblemished record of "loyalty" to previous clubs. Does so called "disloyalty" only matter if it's been with regards to BHAFC?

This in a nutshell.

It makes me laugh that people talk about Gus being disloyal. He is currently the sixth most loyal manager in the country!

 

[Giraffe]

One thing that worries me is his lack of emotion / activity on the touchline in the 2nd half... it almost seemed like he was sulking, or am I mis-remembering things? (Genuine question btw).

There have been plenty of games where Gus has just sat there. He expects Plan A to work and sits and watches. Although I am a big Poyet fan and am very much on his side in this I do acknowledge that this is his biggest failing.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

Aren't we in danger of speculation again now?

I'm referring to his demeanour during a particular football match. Does anyone still have the match recorded to allow a factual check of whether he was attmepting to change things / motivate the team during the 2nd half?

Surely that is hardly something that a lawyer would have an interest in. If it is, we might as well shut the Internet for good (Well, perhaps keep it open for porn)

 

[Springal]

I'd be very happy with this. I really don't think we have much better, in fact fans of other Championship clubs I know, are bemused by our reactions here. Most of them would LOVE Poyet

 

[El Sid]

The key emotion I have about that game is one of anger, especially if I allow myself to speculate as to whether the 'off field stuff' affected Gus' ability to get the players ready for the match.

This thought has been bugging me since Black Monday. Were our chances affected by behind the scenes troubles during that most important weekend, ultimately costing us a place in the final and many millions in potential PL revenue.

 

[Justice]

Aren't we in danger of speculation again now?

Yes cue another club statement from baffoon Barber

 

[Cowfold Seagull]

Fence, but he can carry on if he could just keep his gob shut except when promoting or managing the club.

Yes l agree that would be the ideal scenario. Unfortunately though Gus being Gus he just CANNOT keep his mouth shut, and l feel that once a manager has been suspended can things ever be quite the same again?. I don't think so. Time for both the Club, and Gus, to move on.

 

[Mellotron]

I'd be very happy with this. I really don't think we have much better, in fact fans of other Championship clubs I know, are bemused by our reactions here. Most of them would LOVE Poyet

Attractive football and consistent progression year in, year out - of course they'd want Poyet.

 

[Common as Mook]

You can want as much as you like....and when its confirmed he is gone i suppose you will say lucky guess as well.....you ain't got long to wait now.

I'm resigned to the fact he's gone. I'd just love to see your bluster and bullshit shown up, as well as the fact it would annoy you that a foreign manager was still in charge.

 

[Biscuit]

It'd be the best news possible. The club need Poyet as much as Poyet needs Brighton right now IMO. Get him back in, signing players, cajoling the back room staff and planning for next season. I'd be massively relieved if common sense prevailed and we welcomed Poyet back.

 

[middletoenail]

Attractive football and consistent progression year in, year out - of course they'd want Poyet.

Are you related to Mr Poyet?

 

[Albumen]

Championship 2012-13
A tale of three periods

End of October:
13 games in: Brighton ranked 10th with 1.46 Points per game.

End of January:
15/16 games played in period: Brighton ranked 9th with 1.53 points per game.

The cavalry arrive in the guise of Ulloa and Upson. Sunddenly we have a team that Gus wants.
End of May:
17/18 games played in period: Brighton ranked 2nd with 1.89 points per game. Bolton scored 1 point more.
We're joint top scorers in that period and 2nd ranked in goals conceded. 6+ goal difference better than the nearest team (Watford).

We're on the up, literally I think. It would madness to get rid.

 

[Trigger]

Too late, we don't need a manager that comes out after every defeat saying he wants to jump ship, if he did his job properly rather than touting himself about everywhere with his massive oversized novelty mouth then this situation probably wouldn't have arisen, very unsettling for the club.

 

[Springal]

Too late, we don't need a manager that comes out after every defeat saying he wants to jump ship, if he did his job properly rather than touting himself about everywhere with his massive oversized novelty mouth then this situation probably wouldn't have arisen.

But he doesn't say that after every job. Only the dramatic drama queen bed wetter crew dream that up.

Most people would be happy with a no-hoper, non ambitious, mid-table manager like Nigel Clough I reckon? Should help with peoples sensitivity problems.

 

[Mellotron]

Are you related to Mr Poyet?

...actually look at the result year in, year out. We've been superb under Poyet. People who can't see that are f**king idiots.

 

[Papa Lazarou]

There have been plenty of games where Gus has just sat there. He expects Plan A to work and sits and watches. Although I am a big Poyet fan and am very much on his side in this I do acknowledge that this is his biggest failing.

Yep - agreed. It's all about perception.

His willingness / open-ness to speculate on future roles doesn't help.

His seeming total faith in Plan A and apparent inability to cope with teams that change plan mid game also doesn't reflect well on him.

However, I'm stil fence, because the last 3rd of the season saw us hit promotion form. If Tony is happy to go on, so am I. I would expect everyone to learn an important lesson, and perhaps Gus will have the humility to change his style to correct and percieved flaws.

 

[El Presidente]

There is no turning back for me once a manager's actions have jeopardized my team's chances. I still say that we have missed a wonderful opportunity this season and the events leading up to and surrounding Monday 13th May have left an ugly taste in the mouth. There are clearly a lot of fans prepared to forgive and forget. I'm not one of them. He has not put the club first and that, for me, is unforgiveable.
There seem to be a number of fans suggesting there are no other options around and that Gus is irreplaceable. That, quite frankly, is short sighted and clearly shows a lack of footballing nous. Of course there are other options out there and some of them will be better.
If Gus stayed on, we would all see the same pattern next season. The rigid gameplan. The inability to anticipate during matches. The caution and safety first approach that leads to lots of draws. Peaks and troughs. Ups and downs. Isolated moments of glorious football interspersed with a lot of frustration, trying to break teams down. Failure to come from behind to win. Lots of media attention and publicity. Not a lot of tactical nous.
We had an outstanding squad this season. Some managers ( Holloway included ) would have carved out an automatic spot with these players. A lot of you are still putting your faith in a manager that ultimately blew it. Who cocked up our biggest game for years. Who thought all he had to do was to turn up and outfootball Palace. Well Holloway outwitted him and was hungrier than him and that was reflected on the pitch. Holloway wanted it more and thats what hurt.
No, its farewell Gus ( who has taken us as far as his limitations will allow ) and lets move on.

Whilst I agree with you that there are other options out there, your assessment of Poyet's record is North Korean in it's outlook. As for comments such as 'peaks and troughs, ups and downs', those could be levelled at nearly every club in the Championship.

The Holloway who you champion had a record in the league of W11 D13 L10 last season with the Stripeys, does that really get you salivating? I am not knocking his record in the play-offs, but prior to that he was at best treading water with Palace.

 

[Mellotron]

Too late, we don't need a manager that comes out after every defeat saying he wants to jump ship, if he did his job properly rather than touting himself about everywhere with his massive oversized novelty mouth then this situation probably wouldn't have arisen, very unsettling for the club.

He hasn't ONCE done this after a game.

 

[Albumen]

Whilst I agree with you that there are other options out there, your assessment of Poyet's record is North Korean in it's outlook. As for comments such as 'peaks and troughs, ups and downs', those could be levelled at nearly every club in the Championship.

The Holloway who you champion had a record in the league of W11 D13 L10 last season with the Stripeys, does that really get you salivating? I am not knocking his record in the play-offs, but prior to that he was at best treading water with Palace.

They were the 9th best team since Jan 31st, with a GD of -3.