I just want to watch football, now I have to cconsider my Albion supporter "aspirations"

[Postman Pat]

So we now have the birth of the 'elitist fan', those who pay the most money get the best seats, regardless of anything.
They book them at a moments notice, for a fee.
Better add prawn sandwiches to the menu.

The people who pay the most money have always had the best seats, that hasn't changed. 1901 will get higher priority than anyone as they pay the most.

 

[leigull]

So Season Ticket holders are not going to be charged for membership - will that calm some people down? More details released later today

 

[Buzzer]

Trouble is that I don't think the market is out there for potential elitist fairweather fan willing to pay top dollar for a Championship match. Most of the 1901ers...our current elite....are proper fans like the rest of us and they will get pissed off with Barber like the rest of us.

 

[Goldstone1976]

My point, which you can just see flying over your head, was - why does he attempt to communicate with them in a language none of them speak?

Umm, actually I think you'll find that a sizeable percentage of those I've listed speak precisely his language....

Are insults really needed?

 

[Biscuit]

I have a ST, is that aspirational enough?

Let's sort out a ****ing manager please so we don't crash and burn next season. When that's done I'll consider my 'aspirations'.

 

[Biscuit]

Trouble is that I don't think the market is out there for potential elitist fairweather fan willing to pay top dollar for a Championship match. Most of the 1901ers...our current elite....are proper fans like the rest of us and they will get pissed off with Barber like the rest of us.

Nail. Head.

 

[Hamilton]

I have a ST, is that aspirational enough?

Let's sort out a ****ing manager please so we don't crash and burn next season. When that's done I'll consider my 'aspirations'.

This - with bells on!

 

[rdigs24]

Agreed - the implication is that they will make getting tickets difficult if you don't join. Thankfully the good folk of NSC will hopefully enable me to get tickets as many of them did last season ( despite Barber forcing the closure of the Ticket Available thread ! ).

You're welcome to my seat when It's available.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Umm, actually I think you'll find that a sizeable percentage of those I've listed speak precisely his language....

Are insults really needed?

In your list maybe but not in mine. His tone and his use of language serve only to alienate him from me (and I gather from this thread, a lot of others).

Apologies for insult.

 

[drew]

I don't want him involved in any aspect of the playing side of things. FFS.

He is involved with the playing side. If we don't have finances, we can't buy players and pay them. Simple economics.

He is a sort of anti-Brighton. It is his Birt-speak that annoys me. Tony Bloom doesn't talk like a business automaton, neither do any of his family that I've met. Non of the other employees I've dealt with at the club do. Players don't.No fans of my acquaintance do - so who is Barber attempting to communicate with?

Just a polite reminder that TB employed him. I doubt he did it on the back of a CV sent in by Barber, he would have most likely been head hunted by a specialist recruitment agency and TB would have known everything he needed to know about him before he met him, probably including what happened at Spurs with Ramos.

So we now have the birth of the 'elitist fan', those who pay the most money get the best seats, regardless of anything.
They book them at a moments notice, for a fee.
Better add prawn sandwiches to the menu.

You do wonder whether people engage their brains before posting utter crap on here. Firstly, we have, and always have been, customers. Equally you are a fan. It makes no sodding difference other than giving some an excuse to Barber bash. As for the 'elitist' crap, hasn't that always been the case. When I first went, I stood on the terraces and those slightly better off were at the back of the South stand and those better off than them were in the West Stand. Same at the Withdean, those with more money sat with a roof over their heads. If you didn't get more money from those that can afford to pay then everyone else would have to pay more.

As for the crap comments about Barber shouldn't be here. Who else do you recommend then to make sure we are compliant with FFP and by doing so get an advantage over those that aren't. If it wasn't Barber, it would be someone else, possibly someone with no experience in football and be even more radical.

Sometimes I think half of those on here would be happy watching League two football on a council run athletics track rather than what we have now, a super facility, a roof (for most of us) the ability to buy alcohol in the ground and finally the very good prospect of Premier League football in the not too distant future. If you just want to watch football then get up early on a Sunday and go down your local park, there's bound to be a couple of teams playing. But if you do, I bet which ever team you watch, they will want to go on to better things, in some cases that is just promotion but in the case of other clubs it could end up moving through the football pyramid.

 

[Goldstone1976]

In your list maybe but not in mine. His tone and his use of language serve only to alienate him from me (and I gather from this thread, a lot of others).

Apologies for insult.

Yes, you're right. It's a nightmare job for anyone to do - whoever does it has to communicate with such a wide number of people with wildly differing interests. Do you think anyone else would do a better job? It's a serious question...

Thanks for apology - all good

 

[Hillian1]

All I really want to do is go to the football with mates, have a few beers, shout a bit and then go home.

Why has following a football club become so complicated?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Why has following a football club become so complicated?

This

 

[Return of the Rev]

all i really want to do is go to the football with mates, have a few beers, shout a bit and then go home.

Why has following a football club become so complicated?

let it die you sad man

 

[Buzzer]

let it die you sad man

Is this your new in-joke now that you can't spam the board with 'test 1234'?

 

[Return of the Rev]

is this your new in-joke now that you can't spam the board with 'test 1234'?

Don't start all that again

 

[Hamilton]

He is involved with the playing side. If we don't have finances, we can't buy players and pay them. Simple economics.



Just a polite reminder that TB employed him. I doubt he did it on the back of a CV sent in by Barber, he would have most likely been head hunted by a specialist recruitment agency and TB would have known everything he needed to know about him before he met him, probably including what happened at Spurs with Ramos.





You do wonder whether people engage their brains before posting utter crap on here. Firstly, we have, and always have been, customers. Equally you are a fan. It makes no sodding difference other than giving some an excuse to Barber bash. As for the 'elitist' crap, hasn't that always been the case. When I first went, I stood on the terraces and those slightly better off were at the back of the South stand and those better off than them were in the West Stand. Same at the Withdean, those with more money sat with a roof over their heads. If you didn't get more money from those that can afford to pay then everyone else would have to pay more.

As for the crap comments about Barber shouldn't be here. Who else do you recommend then to make sure we are compliant with FFP and by doing so get an advantage over those that aren't. If it wasn't Barber, it would be someone else, possibly someone with no experience in football and be even more radical.

Sometimes I think half of those on here would be happy watching League two football on a council run athletics track rather than what we have now, a super facility, a roof (for most of us) the ability to buy alcohol in the ground and finally the very good prospect of Premier League football in the not too distant future. If you just want to watch football then get up early on a Sunday and go down your local park, there's bound to be a couple of teams playing. But if you do, I bet which ever team you watch, they will want to go on to better things, in some cases that is just promotion but in the case of other clubs it could end up moving through the football pyramid.

It's the definition of "better things" that matters.

What almost kills you, should make you stronger. I'm concerned that we're being led back to being a normal football club again - with customers/fans treated the same way as any other club. It doesn't have to be like that. It shouldn't be like that.

Far too many supporters/fans are ostracised by their clubs - they are not included in the running of the club or what the club stands for. In campaigning for the Albion, the fans played a huge part in determining whether their would be a club that would have customers. Therefore, the relationship between fans and management could be different. I would argue it should be.

I would argue that the Albion should be seen as the campaigning club. In the same way that it tacitly supported Falmer For All, it should be actively nurturing organisations that campaign for better relationships with fans; that include the disadvantaged in football; that campaigns for financial fair play and is not just content to be "compliant." I'd like to see the Albion campaigning on behalf of Doncaster Belles, I'd like to see it commissioning studies into whether safe standing can work (as this is what many fans care about.) Instead, we are becoming a club that is forgetting its recent roots. We are forgetting the experiences that rescued the Albion and should have made us stronger - better.

We do still have some of this e.g. AITC, but we can do more. It should be in the very values of the club. It should be enshrined in the way the club behaves.

 

[Buzzer]

Don't start all that again

You tell me

Let it die you sad man.

let it die!

let it die you sad man

Let it die you sad man.

Let it die you sad man.

Let it die you sad man

 

[Return of the Rev]

you tell me

let it die you sad man

 

[Buzzer]

let it die you sad man

Truly pathetic.