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Yeah and maybe the prob is ours to improve training and better hours instead of flooding the country with migrants.
The prob is here and should be solved here
The prob is here and should be solved here
dave the gaffer said:Micheal Howards parents were refugees from the Holocaust, I think it was Rumanian, but not sure.
dave the gaffer said:Marvin, I take a lot of what you say, however, you could say that the Chinese people who died at Morecombe and In the back of the container at Dover were econimic migrants, when they are clearly not. They are slaves sold to underworld gangs who do not pay them and work them till they die.
those are the people we should wish to help.
marvin said:
(Claire Short, that ginger gnome bloke, Alan "I want to spend more time with my children" Milburn. All quit rather than follow the party line.)
Gullet said:This will be the last message I am going to put on this thread whether you reply to it or not Marvin.
You have got your facts wrong on the above point.Claire Short did not "quit rather than follow the party line."She said in the run up to the Iraq war that she would quit the Labour Party if British troops set foot in that country.When the coalition forces invaded she was challenged by the opposition and the media to stick to her threat, just like Robin Cook had done. But a week later she was still in office with no sign of her quitting, she would not even discuss it when challenged.Seeing Blair being constantly ridiculed and challenged on this point time and time again in the House embarrassed senior party officials told her that to protect the credibility of the Prime Minister she must go through with her promise to quit or be demoted to the back bench, which would have been the ultimate embarrassment for her. To save face she took the cowards way out.She had in fact gone against her own beliefs in a desperate attempt to save her job.
You can argue this point till the cows come home, but what I have told you is FACT no matter what you say.
Two more things to say before I sign off this thread permanently.Firstly, the title of this thread "I feel sick" is ridicuously over the top, seeing as all you are doing is critisising someone who is saying how much he hates racists.Questioning your logic here.
Secondly, if you were simply trying to get a reaction you have succeeded.Unfortunately most of it was against you and your beliefs. Because of this fact are you now saying that most NSC members are racists themselves?
As I have said I will read any reply but I will not be reacting to it. As far as I am concerned this thread is finished.
Curious Orange said:Marvin, are you perhaps mistaking prejudice for racism. It is a fine line I know, but nevertheless it is relevant. Everyone is prejudiced, but that doesn't necessarily mean that they are racist.
Gullet said:Totally agree.No one ever complains about blacks or asians being racist towards white people.What about that tosser Abu Hamza (Hook)? He's allowed to say what he wants about us and get away with it ( with a police guard) but if we were to say the same sort of stuff in the street against his sort of people we'd be slung in clinck straight away. Send the wanker and all his supporters back to where they came from.ONE SIDED POLITICAL CORRECTNESS MAKES ME SICK!!!
Gullet said:Thats my whole point.Blacks and asians are protected from racisism more than whites are.You just gave a good example.If you had been black and them white YOU would have been arrested. There has always been more protection towards colourds because people like you stick up for them all the time. Unless they are born here, they shouldnt be here!!!
sullyupthewing said:Everyone is racist to some degree, I am I f***ing hate Pikeys.
Curious Orange said:Prejudice and racism are NOT the same thing, it is possible to be prejudiced against people of your own race. That doesn't make you racist.
marvin said:But you are prjudiced against an individual not a WHOLE RACE of people.
Waht I said was its racism when it is aimed at a WHOLE RACE, as many peoples prejudice in reality is.
There are individuals of all races that I don't like, but there is no one I would say I don't like purely because they are of that race.
No sorry I take that back the female race might fit that bill.