How Glen Johnson missed the England team photo

[Munkfish]

Thing is, when you refer to "a good game", do you take into account what is expect of each player?

I.e. Emile Heskey is expected to:

be positionally aware, make space for others, win the ball, hold the ball up, lay it off etc

Not

Score, show flair and technical ability - "he didn't ever look like scoring so he played shit".

I had this argument with my housemate about Welbeck. he didnt seem to understand that becuase he didnt score and run at the French, he didnt have a bad game.

 

[Kumquat]

Oops. England were playing zonal marking. You sir are fired.

Yes - that argument has been pointed out and dealt with. But thanks.

 

[Marshy]

But he had a good game on Monday and you were the last to say so....


In fact you never said it at all....[/QUOTE

Because I didnt think he did have a good game.

You want me to change my opinion because you dont agree with it ?

 

[Mellotron]

I had this argument with my housemate about Welbeck. he didnt seem to understand that becuase he didnt score and run at the French, he didnt have a bad game.

With the very limited opportunity he had, I thought Welbeck played very well, showed a very promising first touch and link up/understanding with players around him.

 

[Munkfish]

With the very limited opportunity he had, I thought Welbeck played very well, showed a very promising first touch and link up/understanding with players around him.

completley agree, although some people just dont want to see the positives.

however this is not the argument. Johnson had a good game and done what was asked of him.

 

[Kumquat]

With the very limited opportunity he had, I thought Welbeck played very well, showed a very promising first touch and link up/understanding with players around him.

Exactly what I thought. Was very impressed with his touch and skill. Haven't seen much of him before to be honest. Can see now why he was taken to cover Rooney.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

You want me to change my opinion because you dont agree with it ?

No, not at all.

But claiming you'll be the 'first' to admit he had a good game is laughable when you're the only one who didnt think he had a good one on Monday.

He is going to have to MESSI it for you to acknowledge it.

 

[Marshy]

Exactly what I thought. Was very impressed with his touch and skill. Haven't seen much of him before to be honest. Can see now why he was taken to cover Rooney.

He will partner Rooney I hope. With Young moving to the left side of midfield.

 

[Marshy]

No, not at all.

But claiming you'll be the 'first' to admit he had a good game is laughable when you're the only one who didnt think he had a good one on Monday.

He is going to have to MESSI it for you to acknowledge it.

I was far from the only one who thought he was poor.

 

[Mellotron]

He will partner Rooney I hope. With Young moving to the left side of midfield.

Pretty sure that's what'll happen. If we can stay solid, and then IF Rooney comes into the side firing on all cylinders, we could actually get somewhere in this tournament. (Probably semis at best).

 

[Manx Shearwater]

With the very limited opportunity he had, I thought Welbeck played very well, showed a very promising first touch and link up/understanding with players around him.

Nah, he was shit!

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

Englands 5th choice right back in my opinion at best

He is a total liability

This thread makes quite interesting reading now.

boing.

 

[Mellotron]

Whole back 5 can be perfectly happy with their performances in this tournament.

 

[Marshy]

He had a good game yesterday, still a bloody liability in my opinion

The sooner walker comes in the side the better.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

still a bloody liability in my opinion

Based on his brilliant performances and saving tackles?

 

[Albumen]

He had a good game yesterday, still a bloody liability in my opinion

The sooner walker comes in the side the better.

In a best right back of the tournament kinda way?

 

[Marshy]

Based on his brilliant performances and saving tackles?

He was f***ing awful against Sweden, I didnt start a thread about it though claiming I was right all along......

Im suprised you bounced this thread based on one good game to be honest.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

He was f***ing awful against Sweden, I didnt start a thread about it though claiming I was right all along......

Im suprised you bounced this thread based on one good game to be honest.

Oh. I thought he played in 4. All of which he played very well.

Which one was his 'one' good game?

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

In a best right back of the tournament kinda way?

Still a liability....

 

[Marshy]

He played well against Ukraine and Italy. Was poor against France, got lucky, and was woeful against Sweden

We clearly not going to agree on this, but hey ho.

Its over, back to the proper business of the Albion now.