Gus to Chelsea

[Art Vs Science]

They are usually fat cropped haired builders called Micky with armfuls of badly scribed tattoos and gap toothed smoking hag wives called Stacey, occasionally though you may encounter a nouveau Chelsea fan called Damien who works somewhere in the home counties probably in IT or Insurance sales and drives a 9 year old Audi A4 with extra tinted windows. Damien owns a tweed cap and also prefers a Ralph Lauren Merino scarf on matchdays - he is universally accepted by all that know him as a complete twat.

Yes. Good summary. Amazing turnaround of fans since their 8000 a week in the 80's

 

[Guy Fawkes]

The OP must be loving his attempt at making a story out of nothing having got over 6k views and more than 160 replies so far.

His source is probably Bloom's argus interview in which he said he wouldn't stand in Poyet's way if a Premier League team came in for him and he wanted to go and also that Chelsea recently got rid of Wilkins and so they have basically concluded that this is all code for Poyet going to be their new AM due to the timing of both announcements.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Do you really think that likely? What if he turned out to be rubbish and Oatway was really the tactical genius?

In some parallel universe that is probably true.

 

[Dr_Pepper]

Would you turn down the chance to leapfrog two divisions and land a top job at the second richest club in the country? Doubt many would.

On the other hand, if Poyet's CV shows he got the Albion promoted in his first season as a manager it would stand him in very good stead to progress surely but steadily up the managerial ladder while still learning his trade. But Micky Adams #1 didn't hang around when a better offer came along. Wouldn't expect Poyet, or indeed any fiercely ambitious manager, to do any differently.

Dunno, could go either way

Well if he went to Chelsea now, and then few season's time Ancelotti goes/retires and he takes over (if he was still there), then he wouldn't have much experience in managing a club as been assistant for a few season so staying as manager of lower league clubs to get them promoted then he would be interested in managing a club like Chelsea

 

[NMH]

Well if he went to Chelsea now, and then few season's time Ancelotti goes/retires and he takes over (if he was still there), then he wouldn't have much experience in managing a club as been assistant for a few season so staying as manager of lower league clubs to get them promoted then he would be interested in managing a club like Chelsea

Er...not that Chelsea tend to promote assistants anyway, so that would not be pertinent to this issue really.

The part that is though, is that he's been assistant several times, and also in the Premier League - so what would be so attractive for him to do another 'second in command' job? He must have been frustrated under Ramos especially, that was a dire situation that probably prompted him to think "never again".

Gus is number one, deservedly, and should always be from now on in.

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[Dr_Pepper]

Er...not that Chelsea tend to promote assistants anyway, so that would not be pertinent to this issue really.

The part that is though, is that he's been assistant several times, and also in the Premier League - so what would be so attractive for him to do another 'second in command' job? He must have been frustrated under Ramos especially, that was a dire situation that probably prompted him to think "never again".

Gus is number one, deservedly, and should always be from now on in.

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I know but if he did go, Chelsea could say to him, stay here for a few season's then you will be manager

Yeah he doing a great job for Brighton, so there no reason for him to get backwards in his managerial career.

I wouldn't want him to leave, as would put Brighton in a mess and make no change really for Chelsea as he assistant.

 

[Grendel]

Yes. Good summary. Amazing turnaround of fans since their 8000 a week in the 80's

Chelsea's lowest average attendance the 80s was more than 12,500. Their highest seasonal average was 23,000.

 

[Silent Bob]

If managers do well they tend to stay in their jobs.
If manmagers do badly they tend to get sacked and their righthand men tend to be associated with the failures.

If Gus wants to be a manager he'd be a fool to go there. I don't think there's much in this in any case personally.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Would you turn down the chance to leapfrog two divisions and land a top job at the second richest club in the country? Doubt many would.

On the other hand, if Poyet's CV shows he got the Albion promoted in his first season as a manager it would stand him in very good stead to progress surely but steadily up the managerial ladder while still learning his trade. But Micky Adams #1 didn't hang around when a better offer came along. Wouldn't expect Poyet, or indeed any fiercely ambitious manager, to do any differently.

Dunno, could go either way

Do you think that when Wenger leaves Arsenal his assistant manager will take over? or the same thing with Manchester United and Alex Ferguson?

Top clubs will want a top manager with a proven track record for delivering trophies, something Gus will not have if he were to leave us now and go to Chelsea as there new assistant manager (which he won't)

 

[Dr_Pepper]

Do you think that when Wenger leaves Arsenal his assistant manager will take over? or the same thing with Manchester United and Alex Ferguson?

Top clubs will want a top manager with a proven track record for delivering trophies, something Gus will not have if he were to leave us now and go to Chelsea as there new assistant manager (which he won't)

No but with Gus having manager experience so if he went to Chelsea he could be capable of being the manager of them after being an assistant
But if he went he would not be as good of a manager as in 5 years of time as of the consistency of being a manager for 5 years.
So he's better of with staying at Brighton

 

[the right footed denilson]

 

[El Presidente]

Do you think that when Wenger leaves Arsenal his assistant manager will take over? or the same thing with Manchester United and Alex Ferguson?

I for one would 'love it' if Micky Phelan took over at OT

 

[Guy Fawkes]

No but with Gus having manager experience so if he went to Chelsea he could be capable of being the manager of them after being an assistant
But if he went he would not be as good of a manager as in 5 years of time as of the consistency of being a manager for 5 years.
So he's better of with staying at Brighton

So hypothetically saying he went to Chelsea as assistant manager and in a couple of years time Ancelotti goes, do you think that Poyets CV will be considered good enough by the fans or Abramovich to take charge of a team challenging for domestic league and european cup glory? - I would have said no.

If he stays and does well with us, a team higher up the football pyramid may come in for him, if he then does well there he may get another move to a bigger and better club and work his way to the top, but if he was to become Chelseas assistant, he would only have had about a year in charge of a third tier club which surely won't be enough experience for challenging in the Champions League etc.

So far nothing has gone badly wrong in his managerial career, he hasn't really had a major crisis to deal with and he hasn't therefore been under major pressure and proved he can cope, turning things around again and seeing it through to the other side - so until he can prove he is capable of doing this, i can't see a top club taking a chance on him, but a lower Premier League team may take a chance on him much earlier in his career if he stays and continues to do well with us (like someone did with Ince) but imo its still too early in his career

 

[champion7]

Spoke to Gus at QOS sun night and his response was ;i have a contract at Brighton FC

 

[Dr_Pepper]

So hypothetically saying he went to Chelsea as assistant manager and in a couple of years time Ancelotti goes, do you think that Poyets CV will be considered good enough by the fans or Abramovich to take charge of a team challenging for domestic league and european cup glory? - I would have said no.

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Yeah you right, if he was to become Assistant and Ancelotti went then he would maybe become caretaker manager until they got a new manager, then he would have to work from lower league's again, so if he did take that job, he would have to go back to the lower leagues.

 

[Guerrero]

Where's uncle fester going to find a job now'

 

[Jimbo.GRFC]

So hypothetically saying he went to Chelsea as assistant manager and in a couple of years time Ancelotti goes, do you think that Poyets CV will be considered good enough by the fans or Abramovich to take charge of a team challenging for domestic league and european cup glory? - I would have said no.

If he stays and does well with us, a team higher up the football pyramid may come in for him, if he then does well there he may get another move to a bigger and better club and work his way to the top, but if he was to become Chelseas assistant, he would only have had about a year in charge of a third tier club which surely won't be enough experience for challenging in the Champions League etc.

So far nothing has gone badly wrong in his managerial career, he hasn't really had a major crisis to deal with and he hasn't therefore been under major pressure and proved he can cope, turning things around again and seeing it through to the other side - so until he can prove he is capable of doing this, i can't see a top club taking a chance on him, but a lower Premier League team may take a chance on him much earlier in his career if he stays and continues to do well with us (like someone did with Ince) but imo its still too early in his career

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So far nothing has gone badly wrong in his managerial career, he hasn't really had a major crisis to deal with and he hasn't therefore been under major pressure and proved he can cope, turning things around again and seeing it through to the other side - so until he can prove he is capable of doing this, i can't see a top club taking a chance on him, but a lower Premier League team may take a chance on him much earlier in his career if he stays and continues to do well with us (like someone did with Ince) but imo its still too early in his career[/QUOTE]

Dare I remind you that our man has now had to deal with 2 players who in their own rights are potential match winners before the cloggers got hold of them and broke their legs. Add a few dubious red cards into the mix and I'll think you'll see the situation he faces (Refs + Albion = 0) Informed the mod about an hour ago that my contacts have confirmed Gus will be staying for the foreseeable future(Finances etc to be finalised)

 

[severnside gull]

Informed the mod about an hour ago that Gus will be staying (Finances etc to be finalised)

sounds like you may have had a good night but if you can perhaps you would clarify this bit?

 

[vulture]

Finances etc to be finalised


He has a 4 year deal with us signed in the summer so what do you mean he is staying with the above statement makes no sense.

 

[severnside gull]

Perhaps we can now all wait for the Argus' "confirmation of Gus' departure" with less than bated breathe (as if we weren't already)?