GOOD things that religion has ever given us

[Questions]

Being beaten by sadistic nuns at my catholic primary school.


Gives me a stiffy just thinking about it.

 

[Braders]

Christmas
Easter Eggs


errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrm...get back to you.

 

[withdeanwombat]

Virgins?

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The Ten Commandments

I see "Thou shalt not commit adultery" has completely dropped out of the charts recently.

 

[Juan Albion]

You lot really don't have a clue, do you.

How about such things as hospitals, schools, universities, most major social reforms, nursing as we know it, the basis of our societal norms and legal structures, the printing press, Oxfam, and much great art and architecture. And rock music owes a great debt to spirituals. But of course many of you are too blind or bigotted to see the work of religions around you. You live in a little world based on whatever tidbits the media feeds you.

What you don't take into account is what people of faith are doing everyday in most corners of the world. You have these sad little cliches about religion starting wars (when as often as not, it is people either manipulating religion to suit their own personal causes, or not being religious enough) and you forget the massive amount of work that religions do to make peace in the world. I guess you forget that some of the central tenets of Christianity are to turn the other cheek, to love your neighbour, and to treat others how you would want them to treat you (in fact that is the golden rule of most major religions). That is the Christian position - it is very clear. If some twist religion to their own ends, you can't blame Christianity, you must blame the twisters. If there is a war, it probably has something to do with greed, a lust for power or a fear, all of which are cotrary to the Christian faith.

You pick up a few soundbytes about priests who have been guilty of abuse (and they exist in every occupation - it seems to be a flaw in some human's character) but for each one of them there are many, many thousand priests who spend their days working for the needy in the most difficult and challenging circumstances. For some reason, though, their good works don't often make it into the Sun or the TV's daily 'this is what we want you to think' slots. Good grief, you bleat on and on about how badly some of the media cover the Falmer issue and then swallow everything else they say about anything else, especially if it reinforces your own bigotry.

You want one little soundbyte to add to your collection? Remember that little girl in Africa who was close to death back in the 1980s when they filmed her and brought her story to the TV news, which ultimately led to Band Aid, Live Aid, etc? She was the one that somehow survived and was brought out on stage at the recent Live Aid show and who spoke so passionately. Where do you think she was when the TV crew found her? Who do you think was feeding her and nursing her - and thousands of children in a similar condition? Who do you think was already pouring money into Ethiopia and other countries keeping people alive, long before the great eye in the corner of your living room stirred your consciences?

 

[NMH]

I see "Thou shalt not commit adultery" has completely dropped out of the charts recently.

'MILF' has been going up though, it's going platinum.

 

[Questions]

You lot really don't have a clue, do you.

How about such things as hospitals, schools, universities, most major social reforms, nursing as we know it, the basis of our societal norms and legal structures, the printing press, Oxfam, and much great art and architecture. And rock music owes a great debt to spirituals. But of course many of you are too blind or bigotted to see the work of religions around you. You live in a little world based on whatever tidbits the media feeds you.

What you don't take into account is what people of faith are doing everyday in most corners of the world. You have these sad little cliches about religion starting wars (when as often as not, it is people either manipulating religion to suit their own personal causes, or not being religious enough) and you forget the massive amount of work that religions do to make peace in the world. I guess you forget that some of the central tenets of Christianity are to turn the other cheek, to love your neighbour, and to treat others how you would want them to treat you (in fact that is the golden rule of most major religions). That is the Christian position - it is very clear. If some twist religion to their own ends, you can't blame Christianity, you must blame the twisters. If there is a war, it probably has something to do with greed, a lust for power or a fear, all of which are cotrary to the Christian faith.

You pick up a few soundbytes about priests who have been guilty of abuse (and they exist in every occupation - it seems to be a flaw in some human's character) but for each one of them there are many, many thousand priests who spend their days working for the needy in the most difficult and challenging circumstances. For some reason, though, their good works don't often make it into the Sun or the TV's daily 'this is what we want you to think' slots. Good grief, you bleat on and on about how badly some of the media cover the Falmer issue and then swallow everything else they say about anything else, especially if it reinforces your own bigotry.

You want one little soundbyte to add to your collection? Remember that little girl in Africa who was close to death back in the 1980s when they filmed her and brought her story to the TV news, which ultimately led to Band Aid, Live Aid, etc? She was the one that somehow survived and was brought out on stage at the recent Live Aid show and who spoke so passionately. Where do you think she was when the TV crew found her? Who do you think was feeding her and nursing her - and thousands of children in a similar condition? Who do you think was already pouring money into Ethiopia and other countries keeping people alive, long before the great eye in the corner of your living room stirred your consciences?

Lets thank the Lord then that Bob Geldof is such a devout Christian then.

As for Oxfam not all the founder members from the Oxford Famine Relief Society were christian.

Nearly all the people you quote are without doubt fantastic individuals who happen to be religious but I could name you hundreds of people who have set up institutes, havens , hospitals and the suchlike who are not religious.Religion is no bad thing in those cases if it spurs certain people on to do these deeds but it is by no means the most important charactoristic one needs to do good.

 

[Questions]

Oh I almost forgot.


Cassocks made from rough hessian style material...........................................................................................................................................................Aaaarrrrhhhhhhhhh

 

[Commander]

You lot really don't have a clue, do you.

How about such things as hospitals, schools, universities, most major social reforms, nursing as we know it, the basis of our societal norms and legal structures, the printing press, Oxfam, and much great art and architecture. And rock music owes a great debt to spirituals. But of course many of you are too blind or bigotted to see the work of religions around you. You live in a little world based on whatever tidbits the media feeds you.

What you don't take into account is what people of faith are doing everyday in most corners of the world. You have these sad little cliches about religion starting wars (when as often as not, it is people either manipulating religion to suit their own personal causes, or not being religious enough) and you forget the massive amount of work that religions do to make peace in the world. I guess you forget that some of the central tenets of Christianity are to turn the other cheek, to love your neighbour, and to treat others how you would want them to treat you (in fact that is the golden rule of most major religions). That is the Christian position - it is very clear. If some twist religion to their own ends, you can't blame Christianity, you must blame the twisters. If there is a war, it probably has something to do with greed, a lust for power or a fear, all of which are cotrary to the Christian faith.

You pick up a few soundbytes about priests who have been guilty of abuse (and they exist in every occupation - it seems to be a flaw in some human's character) but for each one of them there are many, many thousand priests who spend their days working for the needy in the most difficult and challenging circumstances. For some reason, though, their good works don't often make it into the Sun or the TV's daily 'this is what we want you to think' slots. Good grief, you bleat on and on about how badly some of the media cover the Falmer issue and then swallow everything else they say about anything else, especially if it reinforces your own bigotry.

You want one little soundbyte to add to your collection? Remember that little girl in Africa who was close to death back in the 1980s when they filmed her and brought her story to the TV news, which ultimately led to Band Aid, Live Aid, etc? She was the one that somehow survived and was brought out on stage at the recent Live Aid show and who spoke so passionately. Where do you think she was when the TV crew found her? Who do you think was feeding her and nursing her - and thousands of children in a similar condition? Who do you think was already pouring money into Ethiopia and other countries keeping people alive, long before the great eye in the corner of your living room stirred your consciences?

Virtually all the things you say here have already been mentioned, albeit not in your own boring, patronising style.

So 'us lot' do have a clue, actually. And despite what you think, you really aren't any better than us.

 

[Silent Bob]

So when a religious person does something good, it's because they're religious, when they do something bad it's incidental?

 

[Man of Harveys]

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

So when a religious person does something good, it's because they're religious, when they do something bad it's incidental?

Hammer frimly hitting nail on the head.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

You lot really don't have a clue, do you.

How about such things as hospitals, schools, universities, most major social reforms, nursing as we know it, the basis of our societal norms and legal structures, the printing press, Oxfam, and much great art and architecture. And rock music owes a great debt to spirituals. But of course many of you are too blind or bigotted to see the work of religions around you. You live in a little world based on whatever tidbits the media feeds you.

morning Mr Albion. I must say it's a joy to be patronised by a religious Zealot. I feel however I must take issue with your claims. Many of the things you claim for Christendom are actually better traced to the Romans and therefore of course by extension the Greeks, Carthaginians and Etruscans.

Education is of course a good example of this, the Romans having a great, albeit class restricted public education system. The Church in the early middle ages in Europe presided over a massive shrinking of literacy by restricting access to education to the religious elite. Of course if we want to thank religion for maintaining our knowledge of Greek and Roman advances we need to look to the East and Islam - a true religion of learning at the time, which might confuse some of our more excitable posters

 

[tinx]

 

[tinx]

oh yes and this:-

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

mr albion's argument sadly invites us to examine the motives behind many altruistic acts, performed by religious people.

as an atheist, when i do a good deed it is because i am a good person.

for the religious folk, when they do a good deed it is merely out of either fear of god, or promise from god that there is an ultimate benefit from doing so (heaven, etc.).

shame.

 

[Barrel of Fun]

Very true. Why should you deserve a 'pat on the back' for doing the right thing, when it should be a natural act of a human being?

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

i'm getting tired of this argument. it's as if the enlightenment never happened.

progress, please.

 

[byf]

Belief that there is a fantastic future waiting and be good person and faithfull to god and trust in God and everything else will be taken care of for you.

 

[scooter1]

Porn stars masquerading as nuns for our titilation