Fox Hunting wa@kers

[BadFish]

Yes. I look forward to it all week. I know plenty of people who go shooting as well and they also enjoy it, however that is what most people propose as the alternative.

Still no comment on the efficiency of fox hunting to control numbers then?

Your proof is once again compelling.

 

[One Love]

Yes. I look forward to it all week. I know plenty of people who go shooting as well and they also enjoy it, however that is what most people propose as the alternative.

Are you stupid?

The alternative is to shoot foxes without enjoying it.

Do you and your friends enjoy anything without killing something?

 

[BadFish]

I experienced similar when I lived out in the country & a local farmer did exactly the same thing. The local 'Hunt' used to smash up half the village when they were bravely chasing a hand-reared Fox or 3; & the hounds would attack anything that was furry with four legs if they happened to be in their way. Bunch of plural see you next Tuesday.

A feeling shared by many-a-horse owner across the country. Don't let them tell you they are integral to the country side, many country folk dislike them as much as 'townies'.

 

[One Love]

Oh, I wondered. Because when I lived there, I attended a fox-hunt in Germany (as a follower, not on horseback), and they used hounds. This was in autumn 1972 in the Taunus.

Good grief

 

[Seagull27]

Remember the story about the child mauled in its bed in london last year? There has also just been another story about a baby having its finger bitten off by a fox. Not to mention all the damage they do within farming communities.

Wow, this is hilariously ironic. So a fox mauls a child in LONDON and therefore they need to be hunted and killed. Well I look forward to seeing the hunt patrolling around Westminster some time soon to prevent this sort of thing happening.

An ex-girlfriend of mine is an A&E nurse and I can tell you that the number of cases of a child being 'mauled' by a domestic dog - usually their own - far outweighs those by foxes.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Whatever the truth of that statement, it was townies who found fox-hunting distasteful, whereas country people understand the nature of the countryside and the predators who live within it. But more than that, townies find the idea of people on horseback as distasteful, particularly when they imagine that everyone who rides a horse or owns a few acres must be a rich snob. It's the politics of envy and ignorance.

The main issue I have with The Countryside Alliance is they claim to stand up for the rural areas but are totally blinkered and fixated on the single issue of fox hunting. There are plenty of other issues affecting the countryside such as unemployment, affordable housing, transport, farmers being screwed for money and lack of government investment with infrastructure projects. I appreciate these are issues which now affect us all but this was going on in the boom years as well. These are things I have supported in the past and continue to do so. It's a shame those who claim to support the countryside don't do the same.

Your generalisation that people think the countryside contains only toffs in tweed is not only offensive but bizarre given that most of use have a reasonable grasp of what it's like given Brighton is surrounded by farms and fields.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

Still no comment on the efficiency of fox hunting to control numbers then?

Your proof is once again compelling.

Dogs kept on farms with Chicken/sheep? Mr Fox will or won't take a chance,a hunt is not always required-

 

[Nibble]

Point of fact, foxes DO kill indiscriminately. Talk to any farmer about it.

No. They do not. And I have. why do fox hunters seem to think they have a monopoly on countryside knowledge. If anything they are the most ignorant of all. All your pathetic arguments aside, you can talk bobbins about efficiency, foxes having a popo at your cat etc etc, we evolved people still don't believe it justifies hunting and killing them. That was the thrust of the ban in the first place. Your "fun" is hated by the rest of the country. And quite rightly.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Dress junior and HovaGirl up as foxes and we'll chase them round and round the Amex on horseback until they collapse from exhaustion, at which point we'll tie their arms and legs to two horses and ride them off in different directions so they get ripped apart. You want to kill animals in a barbaric way for sport (not vermin control) then you should be willing to at least experience it yourselves.

 

[screamadelica]

The main issue I have with The Countryside Alliance is they claim to stand up for the rural areas but are totally blinkered and fixated on the single issue of fox hunting. There are plenty of other issues affecting the countryside such as unemployment, affordable housing, transport, farmers being screwed for money and lack of government investment with infrastructure projects. I appreciate these are issues which now affect us all but this was going on in the boom years as well. These are things I have supported in the past and continue to do so. It's a shame those who claim to support the countryside don't do the same.

Your generalisation that people think the countryside contains only toffs in tweed is not only offensive but bizarre given that most of use have a reasonable grasp of what it's like given Brighton is surrounded by farms and fields.

For once you are nearly talking sense

 

[Scampi]

Point of fact, foxes DO kill indiscriminately. Talk to any farmer about it.

But they're not being indiscriminate. Their natural behaviour is to kill as much prey when they have the chance and "store" it for later consumption. This makes sense for a wild animal which is likely to lose kills to larger predators and furthermore can't guarantee the time between kills. Unfortunately we've taken a bird from the jungle which has limited flight domesticated it and decided to keep them in large groups. The fox is inevitably going to kill large numbers when it is able to gain access to the birds.

 

[BadFish]

Dogs kept on farms with Chicken/sheep? Mr Fox will or won't take a chance,a hunt is not always required-

for controlling numbers, I would suggest that a hunt is never required.

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

For once you are nearly talking sense

Piss off back to Selhurst with your 12k fans you imbecile.

 

[wehatepalace]

Annnnnnnnddddddd......we're off ! Took a while, but the arrival of Nibble and Herr Tubthumper certainly got things moving along nicely. And still the OP is no where to be seen !

 

[Nibble]

I am a landowner, I have land in cornwall and next to my land is a farm. A hunt wanted to run through mine and his land. I had a long chat with the farmer and he urged against it and I agreed. We were offered quite a bit of money from them to use the land but refused. After they dropped the subject the farmer told me they ruin land, scare his beasts and once they are using your land treat you like shit. "Aside all that they are a bunch of arseholes". That is how a lot of landowners feel about hunts, including me. You lot don't know everything there is to know about the countryside, if you did you wouldn't hunt.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

A fence is no barrier to a fox. There's a fox which scales a six-foot fence at the bottom of my garden, and digs holes all over my newly-laid lawn. I'm not sure, but I believe it may have attacked my young cat which became very ill after being scratched recently, and ended up on a drip and nearly died. It may, of course, have been another cat, but my vet said that was unlikely.

I had foxs in my back garden in Camden and Hove. Didn't cause me any problems. In fact I quite liked them dropping by to eat some nuts from my squirrel feeder. Maybe the fox round your area didn't like stuck up Tory cats, quite understandable really.

 

[junior]

I experienced similar when I lived out in the country & a local farmer did exactly the same thing. The local 'Hunt' used to smash up half the village when they were bravely chasing a hand-reared Fox or 3; & the hounds would attack anything that was furry with four legs if they happened to be in their way. Bunch of plural see you next Tuesday.

Where was that? I'm never one to call somebody a liar, but i'd go as far as to say that is complete bullshit, or at least very twisted truth as i acknowledge you may have seen a hunt.

I've never ever ever heard or a hunt "smashing up half a village" and i'd suggest that if one did, they would not have the support of as much of the rural community as they do. Not to mention you should have rung the Police, i certainly would if i saw someone smashing up a village.

Hounds are socialised from puppies. They do not attack "anything furry with four legs". Most will not even be interested in rabbits.

I appreciate that many people are against foxhunting, there are many side to the argument, but coming out with comments like you just have will not do your side of the argument much good i'm afraid as pretty much everyone will read that and realise it is a load of crap.

 

[GoldWithFalmer]

The main issue I have with The Countryside Alliance is they claim to stand up for the rural areas but are totally blinkered and fixated on the single issue of fox hunting. There are plenty of other issues affecting the countryside such as unemployment, affordable housing, transport, farmers being screwed for money and lack of government investment with infrastructure projects. I appreciate these are issues which now affect us all but this was going on in the boom years as well. These are things I have supported in the past and continue to do so. It's a shame those who claim to support the countryside don't do the same.

Your generalisation that people think the countryside contains only toffs in tweed is not only offensive but bizarre given that most of use have a reasonable grasp of what it's like given Brighton is surrounded by farms and fields.

I have studied at Plumpton college and worked at a couple of agricultural dealers,also have access to 3 farms via family connections,2 in sussex,1 indirect family in devon.

I can tell you that you would not have to go far anywhere,to find a farm,even now with no electricity,or running water and some farmers are so poor that it's amazing they even are able to feed themselves.

Yes a few do well,mainly high end cattle/sheep/pigs or arable subsidised and have other ventures on the go to supplement.

 

[screamadelica]

Piss off back to Selhurst with your 12k fans you imbecile.

the old guard eh , nothing but abuse are you lot not intelligent enough to have a debate without resorting to play ground bullying.Thats how you lot got rid of lady gull isnt it

 

[BadFish]

I am a landowner, I have land in cornwall and next to my land is a farm. A hunt wanted to run through mine and his land. I had a long chat with the farmer and he urged against it and I agreed. We were offered quite a bit of money from them to use the land but refused. After they dropped the subject the farmer told me they ruin land, scare his beasts and once they are using your land treat you like shit. "Aside all that they are a bunch of arseholes". That is how a lot of landowners feel about hunts, including me. You lot don't know everything there is to know about the countryside, if you did you wouldn't hunt.

My parents have 20 acres in East Sussex and also don't let the hunt through their land (neither do many of their neighbours) for many of the reasons you describe here. I remember being terrified when I was a kid out on my horse and a hunt rode across the lane by our house without a care for how much they terrified my or my brother horses.