For anti Fox Hunting People

[wodge]

It is absolute basic animal instinct, some people are confused about the habits of animals like foxes that will kill every hen in a hen house. They are not killing for fun, they are thinking ahead. A wild animal doesn't know where its next meal is coming from, and if it finds a glut of prey in one place, it makes sense to kill as many as it can while they're available. Given enough time, it would carry off and cache every chicken it killed.

I'm the same, on the rare occasions I have to help the missus with the shopping at Tesco's, I totally load up the trolley with everything I can get my hands on, beer, curry, non own label stuff, you just don't know when you will get the chance again.

 

[Acker79]

I couldn't see anything in the article that said a fox was definitely to blame. Even if it was a fox the fact this has made the news demonstrates how rare such attacks are doesn't it?

Other than the mother saying she saw the fox in the room with a bloody child who now has a bite marks?

 

[bhaexpress]

I couldn't see anything in the article that said a fox was definitely to blame. Even if it was a fox the fact this has made the news demonstrates how rare such attacks are doesn't it?

That occurred to me as well but there again, I live in a fairly rural area and foxes seem to have little fear or humans. They seldom run away when they see you.

 

[goldstone]

Culling foxes - fine

Chasing after them with dogs who rip them to pieces for 'sport' - not for me.

...and the fact that people get ENJOYMENT out of chasing and killing them ...

 

[captainmorganrum]

Other than the mother saying she saw the fox in the room with a bloody child who now has a bite marks?

That's just her word though isn't it?
I'm suspicious of this - wonder if there are any dogs in the family.
The fox would have had to bite one twin, move to the next cot and then bite the other.
Seems very odd behaviour.
And surely you'd hear something going on via the baby monitor and check it out before the second twin got attacked?

More to this one than meets the eye I reckon.

 

[Uter]

Other than the mother saying she saw the fox in the room with a bloody child who now has a bite marks?

I was all set to post an "I'll get my coat comment", but I've reread it and I still can't see this. Maybe we are reading different stories or I need some new specs.

 

[Acker79]

Yes, seeing the fox is just her word. But we have a fox on the premises, found in one of the traps.

And I see now that thing about bite marks was a second incident in kent.

 

[sir albion]

Foxes are wild they need to find food thats obvious
Just because they attack humans once every 10 years is dosen't mean you should cull foxes:US:

Same old media bullshit

 

[Notters]

The most important point, which always seems to be forgotten, is that fox hunting does NOTHING to control fox populations. When the hunts are in full swing they kill something like 20,000 out of 60,000,000 foxes per year. To say they're controlling fox populations is utter bollocks.

 

[sir albion]

Maybe its time to cull human beings as far to many of these on the planet

 

[keaton]

They've amended the story now so it actually mentions someone seeing the fox. Can we be completely sure it wasn't a wolf that attacked the kids, the brave fox fought off the wolf and was then checking they were okay? Have the BBC actuallly reported a parable?

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

The most important point, which always seems to be forgotten, is that fox hunting does NOTHING to control fox populations. When the hunts are in full swing they kill something like 20,000 out of 60,000,000 foxes per year. To say they're controlling fox populations is utter bollocks.

60 million foxes? I'd never have guessed they were that high in population.

 

[mcshane in the 79th]

Maybe its time to cull human beings as far to many of these on the planet

Amen

 

[beorhthelm]

Ah - The old they kill for fun argument, give me one example of this being proven. This is not fact.

really? there seems to be a very obvious peice of evidence that they dont just attack for food...

It is absolute basic animal instinct, some people are confused about the habits of animals like foxes that will kill every hen in a hen house. They are not killing for fun, they are thinking ahead. A wild animal doesn't know where its next meal is coming from, and if it finds a glut of prey in one place, it makes sense to kill as many as it can while they're available. Given enough time, it would carry off and cache every chicken it killed.

a nice little myth. while "for fun" is too far, it is frenzied killing, not calculated to plan ahead, which would require greater intelligence than animals have. they might go back and recover a couple but by no means all. My Unlce a who farms sheep tells me when preying on lambs they will kill a few but only take one.

 

[beorhthelm]

...When the hunts are in full swing they kill something like 20,000 out of 60,000,000 foxes per year. To say they're controlling fox populations is utter bollocks.

erm, some extra 0's in there. quite right though that its a very poor method of control. a regular shooting and trapping approach is far more effective and those places with real fox problems that dont entertain the hunt will usually employ a marksman to shoot them instead.

as for the urban fox, they are becoming very docile and not at all fearfull of humans, unlike country foxes which will give you a wide birth. i see more foxes in a week in London than i would have in a year in the countryside.

 

[Notters]

erm, some extra 0's in there. quite right though that its a very poor method of control. a regular shooting and trapping approach is far more effective and those places with real fox problems that dont entertain the hunt will usually employ a marksman to shoot them instead.

as for the urban fox, they are becoming very docile and not at all fearfull of humans, unlike country foxes which will give you a wide birth. i see more foxes in a week in London than i would have in a year in the countryside.

Pretty sure my figures are moreor less correct.

 

[beorhthelm]

Pretty sure my figures are moreor less correct.

there are a shade over 60 million *people* in the UK. there is not a fox for every mand woman and child.

 

[Acker79]

I don't have a cat flap, so have to open the door to let my cat out. He wanted to go out late one evening, so I opened the door, he saw a fox run up the street then my cat just ran up and jumped up on my wardrobe (his frequent sleeping place).

 

[Acker79]

Pretty sure my figures are moreor less correct.

The fox website | Foxhunting | Foxes in Britain


Says 240,000-252,000


Wildlifeonline - Natural History of the Red Fox

Says "Current estimations of the number of foxes in the UK stand at 240,000; 195,000 in England, 23,000 in Scotland and 22,000 in Wales (there are no data for Northern Ireland)."

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The fox website | Foxhunting | Foxes in Britain


Says 240,000-252,000


Wildlifeonline - Natural History of the Red Fox

Says "Current estimations of the number of foxes in the UK stand at 240,000; 195,000 in England, 23,000 in Scotland and 22,000 in Wales (there are no data for Northern Ireland)."

That only includes the ones that have registered and are thus on the Fox electoral role.

What about all the illegal immigrant foxes?