Falmer - if the Tories get in

[eastlondonseagull]

Am sure this has been debated before, so apologies if this is going over old ground. But if the Tories win the general election, will the Falmer Inquiry be void, seeing as it was requested by the present govt? And if so, are we back to the drawing board again?

 

[dougdeep]

No.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

No.

So it'll just be down to the Tory ODPM to make a decision?

 

[dougdeep]

The civil servants who do all the work wont change, it will just be a different mouthpiece to say yes.

 

[eastlondonseagull]

The civil servants who do all the work wont change, it will just be a different mouthpiece to say yes.

Cheers for clearing that all up DD

 

[Bluejuice]

Don't you mean ringpiece?

 

[Chicken Run]

Don't you mean ringpiece?

No that's the current one

 

[Bluejuice]

Politicians are all the same Chicken Run. It wasn't a jibe at your precious Tory party. Don't get so defensive.

Same shit, different colour.

Balls to the lot of 'em

 

[Chicken Run]

Politicians are all the same Chicken Run. It wasn't a jibe at your precious Tory party. Don't get so defensive.

Same shit, different colour.

Balls to the lot of 'em

sorry

 

[Tory Boy]

Am sure this has been debated before, so apologies if this is going over old ground. But if the Tories win the general election, will the Falmer Inquiry be void, seeing as it was requested by the present govt? And if so, are we back to the drawing board again?

Of course they will.

Why, because after winning the next general election, the local tories will be out to gain control of B&H council.

And you only win elections if people vote for you. Not many people would vote Tory, if the national party said no to Falmer.

In fact if we had a Tory government now, then Falmer would be nearly complete.

 

[London Irish]

Re: Re: Falmer - if the Tories get in

Of course they will.

Why, because after winning the next general election, the local tories will be out to gain control of B&H council.

And you only win elections if people vote for you. Not many people would vote Tory, if the national party said no to Falmer.

In fact if we had a Tory government now, then Falmer would be nearly complete.

Why then did you get rid of your PPC in Brighton Kemptown because he was pro-stadium?

You don't know much about your own party, do you? All the Rottingdean Tories are rabidly anti-stadium and they undermined the PPC until he was finally forced out.

 

[bigc]

the same tory party which wanted the ID card for football fans in the 1980s?

 

[London Irish]

The civil servants who do all the work wont change, it will just be a different mouthpiece to say yes.

I'm afraid this overlooks how the civil service has changed in the past 20 years. The people who have most influence now are the paid political advisers who are nominally part of the civil service but are, in fact, party hacks. These are the people who really make all the decisions for the minister. They all go with a change of government.

If you have the ODPM filled with the kind of Countryside "save us from the townies" Alliance activists that form the bedrock of the Tory Party's political advisers, all bets are off as far as I'm concerned.

 

[bigc]

yup....Thatcher's 1980's civil service reforms..next step agencies,etc.

permanence,neutralitity, and anonymity. The code of a civil servant..well, till mrs t

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

VOTE TORY no more blundering puppetry from blair

 

[Beach Hut]

VOTE TORY no more blundering puppetry from blair

Amazingly about the only thing I agree with you on.

 

[Gully]

If the tories get in we can forget about the stadium, Thatcher hated football with a passion, the modern tory party are trying to reinvent Thatcherism for the umpteenth time, they will not allow a new football stadium, period.

If the blues get in we may as well kiss goodbye to the stripes.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

bring on the Tories

 

[Beach Hut]

If the tories get in we can forget about the stadium, Thatcher hated football with a passion, the modern tory party are trying to reinvent Thatcherism for the umpteenth time, they will not allow a new football stadium, period.

If the blues get in we may as well kiss goodbye to the stripes.

I doubt it, think you will find Mrs T left office some time ago.

We will get it blue, red or if pigs fly even orange.

 

[FG aka FOOTBALL GENIUS]

um Thatcher is no longer heading the Tory party! Anyway 2 jags is so slow how do you know the blue wont get a decision sorted out any quicker?