Expensive School Trips

[Lankyseagull]

Quite, and they have to pay for many resources out of their own pockets. I was always stunned when me and the Mrs would go out before term started and she'd buy all this art stuff and loads of other resources, bits for reading corners. lamps etc. All out of her own pocket it could come to a lot of money!

You're not the only one who's stunned. I've gone through the same with my other half!

yup, I am a teacher and although I in a very well stocked school I still seem to buy a lot of stuff out of my own pocket.

The worst thing is printer ink. Around £50 a week. Just because the school don't want to buy a second printer, or get the one they have repaired. Mental!

Teachers are asked to do more and more of the jobs that used to be the domain of the parents.........then they get blamed when they haven't got enough time to do the basic things they are supposed to.

My other half's school opens it's hall one evening a week for a Judo club. The school finishes at 3pm, the Judo club starts at 4pm. One of the parents asked my Mrs who's responsibility was it to get his child ready for Judo?! She gave him a rather blunt answer along the lines of 'between 3.15pm and 9.00am your son is your responsibility'. Some people......

 

[Westdene Seagull]

My other half's school opens it's hall one evening a week for a Judo club. The school finishes at 3pm, the Judo club starts at 4pm. One of the parents asked my Mrs who's responsibility was it to get his child ready for Judo?! She gave him a rather blunt answer along the lines of 'between 3.15pm and 9.00am your son is your responsibility'. Some people......

So parents ( a majority of them working ) are meant to make arrangements for someone to look after their child for 45 minutes during the working day ?? Teachers sometimes live in a different universe !

 

[Lush]

So parents ( a majority of them working ) are meant to make arrangements for someone to look after their child for 45 minutes during the working day ?? Teachers sometimes live in a different universe !

Don't most schools have an After-School Club these days? Although obviously there'd be a charge for the hour but I don't see why a teacher should have to stay behind because of a club that's presumably not run by the school.

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Don't most schools have an After-School Club these days? Although obviously there'd be a charge for the hour but I don't see why a teacher should have to stay behind because of a club that's presumably not run by the school.

It was the 45 minute gap I was commenting on. Surely an after school club should allow for the child to stay at school without the need for a parent to turn up at 3.15, look after the child for 45 minutes and then turn up again at whatever time the after school club finishes. Besides, teachers get paid extra for after school clubs ( or certainly my sister and ex-wife do - one being state and one being private ).

 

[Lush]

It was the 45 minute gap I was commenting on. Surely an after school club should allow for the child to stay at school without the need for a parent to turn up at 3.15, look after the child for 45 minutes and then turn up again at whatever time the after school club finishes. Besides, teachers get paid extra for after school clubs ( or certainly my sister and ex-wife do - one being state and one being private ).

Ah - mixed definition of 'After School Club'. In my experience, an after school club is a kind of 'holding pen' designed for kids who need to stay behind for an hour, two hours or whatever (perhaps because parents work and can't pick them up until 5 or 6. There's usually a charge per hour. If a parent is late by more than 15 minutes or so, often the kids will be taken there by the teacher to be collected by the parents (as opposed to the good old days, where kids would just be left on their own in the playground). Sometimes the parents will be charged for this extra time looking after their kids (again why should the teacher stay behind because a parent is running late?) It usually also takes care of kids if there's some inbetween time - say before a club that takes place on a school premises after school, like a judo club.

Don't all infant/junior schools have these?

 

[the wanderbus]

My eldest went on a day trip to the Somme,£80. There were 100 kids,the exhibition is free entry so £8000 to pay for 1 double decker coach, insurance and ferry.No food supplied. I spoke to someone who knows a bit about costing these sort of trip and he reckons they made about 3 to 4 grand profit......bastards!

 

[Nibble]

Teachers shouldn't have to stick around after cos little Johhny wants to do Judo. Some teachers, believe it or not, have their own kids to look after when school finishes, they also have marking etc to get on with.

 

[bhafc99]

We went to Pevensey Castle. How times have changed etc etc.

 

[Nibble]

Oh I forgot, we did go to Bird World once. Now I hear kids go to Chessington World of Adventures. Chessington? On a schoold day? Can't really see the educational merit in that but I don't suppose anyone cares anymore do they. Doesn't get on my wick as much as kids being given the day off to go Christmas Shopping. I still think that's a bloody travesty.

 

[Lush]

Like a lot of kids from Brighton, we went to Burwash. How times have changed etc.

http://www.burwashplace.co.uk/Burwash%20Place%20History.pdf

 

[skipper734]

My after School Club took place in the car park of the Grenadier in Hangleton. No Teachers were involved.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

Such a shit paid job that my sister gets £50k+ and my ex-wfe ( who's also a teacher ) £35k+ !!!!!!!

Can I put it out there that with those salaries and those kinds of perks they aren't standard classroom teachers?

 

[ATFC Seagull]

It was the 45 minute gap I was commenting on. Surely an after school club should allow for the child to stay at school without the need for a parent to turn up at 3.15, look after the child for 45 minutes and then turn up again at whatever time the after school club finishes. Besides, teachers get paid extra for after school clubs ( or certainly my sister and ex-wife do - one being state and one being private ).

Lucky them - I have NEVER head of this happening.

 

[Nibble]

Can I put it out there that with those salaries and those kinds of perks they aren't standard classroom teachers?

This is true

 

[Kneon Light]

It was the 45 minute gap I was commenting on. Surely an after school club should allow for the child to stay at school without the need for a parent to turn up at 3.15, look after the child for 45 minutes and then turn up again at whatever time the after school club finishes. Besides, teachers get paid extra for after school clubs ( or certainly my sister and ex-wife do - one being state and one being private ).

I'm sorry but no we don't get paid for after school clubs. I spend 1 hr every Tuesday and 2 hrs every Friday doing extra clubs with kids - have done for years - never seen a penny for it.

 

[Kneon Light]

My eldest went on a day trip to the Somme,£80. There were 100 kids,the exhibition is free entry so £8000 to pay for 1 double decker coach, insurance and ferry.No food supplied. I spoke to someone who knows a bit about costing these sort of trip and he reckons they made about 3 to 4 grand profit......bastards!

Don't believe for a second the school made ANY profit. If schools make more than about £50 profit on a trip they are legally abliged to refund the money. I have run overseas trips for years and to be honest £80 for that seems incredibly cheap. Trust me coaches, ferries etc for school trips are VERY expensive.

Going back to the original article I notice that the teachers received no praise at all for giving up their entire half term to give the kids an educational experience. So what if it could have been done closer to home or cheaper - it was during the holidays so it's not like the kids missed any school for this - they got a nice escorted holiday and if it is too expensive then simply don't go. As for "have's" and "have not's" isn't that true for all overseas trips - regardless of if they are school trips or not.

 

[BadFish]

Don't believe for a second the school made ANY profit. If schools make more than about £50 profit on a trip they are legally abliged to refund the money. I have run overseas trips for years and to be honest £80 for that seems incredibly cheap. Trust me coaches, ferries etc for school trips are VERY expensive.

Going back to the original article I notice that the teachers received no praise at all for giving up their entire half term to give the kids an educational experience. So what if it could have been done closer to home or cheaper - it was during the holidays so it's not like the kids missed any school for this - they got a nice escorted holiday and if it is too expensive then simply don't go. As for "have's" and "have not's" isn't that true for all overseas trips - regardless of if they are school trips or not.

Insurance alone is astronomical on those kind of trips.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Have to say about three years ago one of my lads came back from school and got talking about a school trip that was be offered at his school,nothing new there and it was to York it seemed ok when and how long for ? Six nights,what on earth are you doing that requires six nights 'ah came the reply it's New York !! Flights,hostel and spends came out at £800 took time to save,the school gave six months warning and well it might never happen for him again. Just wish i could have done it.

 

[Cian]

Went snowboarding in Switzerland and then Disneyland - in a state-run vocational school (the only one in the town mind). Those days are very much gone, its two nights in a hostel in Paris on Eurolines buses now and only about a quarter of the kids go!

 

[Return of the Rev]

little revs trip next year costing 4k