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England Euro 2012 squad [Merged Threads]







Tooting Gull

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I don't think Hodgson realises how difficult it is for a lot of fans to support a team that has John Terry in it.

Very true. Chelsea fans have invested more in Terry since he was 17 or whatever so maybe they have a blind spot when it comes to seeing what a loathsome thug he is.

But it's not the same for the rest of us. I'd have left him out, it would have upset no one in the squad, plus he's been getting found out more and more anyway of late as a very average defender.
 






How can Jordan Henderson be on standby - the most overpriced useless player I have seen this season. Carrick has had one of his best seasons fro Man U and can't get ahead of him. Amazing that Hodgson appears to have given such a high priority to Liverpool players - Carroll and Downing in addition to Henderson - when they had such a poor season and when he couldn't manage at least one of them successfully as their club manager. I reckon Christine Bleakley was consulted on the squad composition for Lampard to be included. The inclusion of Terry shows a total disrespect for the game itself.

It is a squad based on past reputations with the standard inclusion of a couple of youngsters to make it look cosmetically better than it really is.

Totally underwhelming.
 












Munkfish

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May 1, 2006
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How can Jordan Henderson be on standby - the most overpriced useless player I have seen this season. Carrick has had one of his best seasons fro Man U and can't get ahead of him. Amazing that Hodgson appears to have given such a high priority to Liverpool players - Carroll and Downing in addition to Henderson - when they had such a poor season and when he couldn't manage at least one of them successfully as their club manager. I reckon Christine Bleakley was consulted on the squad composition for Lampard to be included. The inclusion of Terry shows a total disrespect for the game itself.

It is a squad based on past reputations with the standard inclusion of a couple of youngsters to make it look cosmetically better than it really is.

Totally underwhelming.

This.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Also with an ego like Terry's you can't even see that they can take him in a back up capacity. You just know that if the first choice pairing is Cahill and Lescott, that Terry will be causing trouble behind the scenes.

The prick.
 


Ninja Elephant

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Feb 16, 2009
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Amazing that Hodgson appears to have given such a high priority to Liverpool players - Carroll and Downing in addition to Henderson - when they had such a poor season and when he couldn't manage at least one of them successfully as their club manager. I reckon Christine Bleakley was consulted on the squad composition for Lampard to be included. The inclusion of Terry shows a total disrespect for the game itself.

Neither Henderson nor Carroll were at Liverpool when Hodgson was. Other than that, I thought your post is gloriously funny. Especially that last line. :lolol:
 








Silent Bob

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Dec 6, 2004
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Milner is there purely for versatility, presumably. I like James Milner though, he has a lot of energy and does a lot of work for the team. If anything, his inclusion should have allowed an additional striker to go, I wouldn't have bothered with Leighton Baines, we have Lescott to cover left back with plenty to cover centre back and Milner has played as a full back Internationally before. I think Milner was basically guaranteed a place because of his versatility.
He won't play but Baines has arguably been better than Cole this season. I'd rather have a specialist fullback than a centreback there anyway.
But with Milner, how far away is he from the team in any of the positions he plays?

Right wing, third or fourth choice
Centre midfield (actually his best position imo), fifth choice
Right back, third choice?
I don't even want to think about the time Capello played him at leftback.

In a maximum six game tournament you're going to be very unlucky to have two or more injuries/suspensions in one position.
 


hans kraay fan club

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Carroll is a good pick. I don't think he's anywhere near as bad as he's been made out to be this season. If we play 4-3-3/4-5-1 we'll need a striker with some presence, which isn't Welbeck or Defoe. He's also a lot better than Crouch, who has flattered to deceive for many years.

I'm a bit dubious about Jones and Milner, but I guess they're only there because they can cover a number of positions. Richards should definitely be ahead of Glen Johnson and there should never be a place for Downing. I can't defend that.

Agree with most of that. Although I'm not at all 'dubious' about the two versatile ones. Milner is a must-pick. He can play full-back, both sides of midfield, or in the centre. His inclusion should, for me, have made room for a fifth striker though.
 


SK1NT

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Sep 9, 2003
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I don't think Hodgson realises how difficult it is for a lot of fans to support a team that has John Terry in it.

Spot on... i hate him... Smug usless c*nt...

Teams shit... We'll be over achieving if we get out the group...

Same old shit Woy.. all so dissapointing.

The witches of eastwick Terry Cole and Lampard around their couldron in the changing room :nono:
 


Ninja Elephant

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Feb 16, 2009
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He won't play but Baines has arguably been better than Cole this season. I'd rather have a specialist fullback than a centreback there anyway.
But with Milner, how far away is he from the team in any of the positions he plays?

Right wing, third or fourth choice
Centre midfield (actually his best position imo), fifth choice
Right back, third choice?
I don't even want to think about the time Capello played him at leftback.

In a maximum six game tournament you're going to be very unlucky to have two or more injuries/suspensions in one position.

It's a fair point, but I think Milner will be present at more International tournaments for a while, very reliable player.

Also, I would prefer Baines to start. I don't think there's much between him and Cole defensively, and Baines is a fantastic set-piece taker, naturally left footed and is extremely reliable at penalties. I would deffinitely have him in the team, Cole has the experience but I think Baines would offer a lot more.
 




hans kraay fan club

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He won't play but Baines has arguably been better than Cole this season. I'd rather have a specialist fullback than a centreback there anyway.
But with Milner, how far away is he from the team in any of the positions he plays?

Right wing, third or fourth choice
Centre midfield (actually his best position imo), fifth choice
Right back, third choice?
I don't even want to think about the time Capello played him at leftback.

In a maximum six game tournament you're going to be very unlucky to have two or more injuries/suspensions in one position.

You're looking at it wrong. The point is that having Milner and Jones there means that you shouldn't bother picking the 4th choice CM, the 3rd choice RM or the 2nd choice RB. That way Milner's inclusion makes space for an extra impact player (Crouch or Zamora in addition to Carroll, or A.Johnson in addition to the other wingers).
 




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