Eng-er-land

[Icy Gull]

Good teams pull defensive teams all over the place, and eventually they'll create chances and break through.

However, England are an ordinary team with THICK players.

Are we off again, you KNOW that is an inflammatory statement

 

[Sheebo]

Good teams pull defensive teams all over the place, and eventually they'll create chances and break through.

However, England are an ordinary team with THICK players.

Are we off again, you KNOW that is an inflammatory statement

well yes it is an inflammatory 'fishing' comment which I obviously disagree completely with (the 'ordinary' bit) and could easily use facts such as demolishing Croatia twice to point out England aren't an ordinary team with thick players but what use are facts in this discussion - usually not a lot of use - it's opinions. I hate discussing England with some on here asI hold a different view to most so best just to let it go IMO...

 

[Marshy]

As long as Cappello is taking his pension out of us every month we will always dissapoint. He really dosent care if we win lose or draw.

 

[auschr]

if i was manager i would have set up a counter-attacking formation 4-5-1 against Montenegro. let them come at england defense commit bodies forward catch them on the break. simples.

 

[Easy 10]

You'd set up a counter-attacking formation against a team that set out to defend and pulled 10 men back behind the ball ?

Blimey, that would have been a spectacle. Would either team have left their own half ?

 

[auschr]

works in football manager

 

[Paxton Dazo]

"ooh but at Spuuuurs the ticket prices are reeeaaallly reasonable." it's f***ing boring mate, that's all.

I wish.

 

[The Modfather]

NO NO NO NO NO. They were saying this on ITV as well. He he hit some very accurate long passes? Yes. Were they effective? Generally no. Hitting a 60 yard pass is all very well and good, but it's bloody hard to bring down and control a 60 yard pass that's been absolutely tonked at you. As a result, the player receiving the pass often immediately loses the ball (especially if, as Johnson and Young often were, he was being double marked). I'd much MUCH rather see us keep the ball on the floor and play short incisive passes forward for wingers/strikers to run on to than massive swirling passes.QUOTE]

Good post.

Another thing regards Gerrard.

With Lampard out of the side he can now play in the centre, in a attacking role. He is playing against a side with no attacking intent themselves, and has a holding midfielder (Barry) to tidy up.

So why the hell is he playing so deep and taking the ball off Ferdinand's feet?

Secondly, why the hell are Capello, & Ferdinand, as captain, not telling him to play 40 yards further up the pitch?

 

[Harry H]

He's taking the ball of Ferdinands feet,as no other fucker in the team wants to take the responsibility and he has a pair of bollocks.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Last night England were crying out for a player like David Beckham who could pose a dead-ball threat. Our corners and free kicks were shit.

Instead of bringing on Davies we needed to push Gerrard up just off Rooney and bring on a holding midfielder. Unfortunately, that option wasn't even on the bench.

The lack of crosses negated Crouch while the deeper roll negated Gerrard. That simply leaves Rooney as the goal threat, and for a combination of reasons he's been shit for months.

Even Joe Cole would have given the Montenegrans something to think about.

Oh, and Gareth Barry was abysmal.

I agree with the notion that this is the most ordinary England side since the mid-90s.

 

[The Modfather]

He's taking the ball of Ferdinands feet,as no other fucker in the team wants to take the responsibility and he has a pair of bollocks.

Obviously it takes bollocks to stand in your own half hitting 60 yard balls up to Crouch.

Hardly a great use of his talent is it?

 

[Barrel of Fun]

We are pretty ordinary, aren't we?

Sven

International Denmark 4-1 England 17-08-2005
World Cup Wales 0-1 England 03-09-2005
World Cup N Ireland 1-0 England 07-09-2005
World Cup England 1-0 Austria 08-10-2005
World Cup England 2-1 Poland 12-10-2005
International Argentina 2-3 England 12-11-2005
International England 2-1 Uruguay 01-03-2006
International England 3-1 Hungary 30-05-2006
International England 6-0 Jamaica 03-06-2006
World Cup England 1-0 Paraguay 10-06-2006
World Cup England 2-0 Trinidad 15-06-2006
World Cup Sweden 2-2 England 20-06-2006
World Cup England 1-0 Ecuador 25-06-2006
World Cup England 0-0 Portugal 01-07-2006


McClaren

International England 4-0 Greece 16-08-2006
European Championships England 5-0 Andorra 02-09-2006
European Championships Macedonia 0-1 England 06-09-2006
European Championships England 0-0 Macedonia 07-10-2006
European Championships Croatia 2-0 England 11-10-2006
International Holland 1-1 England 15-11-2006
International England 0-1 Spain 07-02-2007
European Championships Israel 0-0 England 24-03-2007
European Championships Andorra 0-3 England 28-03-2007
International England 1-1 Brazil 01-06-2007
European Championships Estonia 0-3 England 06-06-2007
International England 1-2 Germany 22-08-2007
European Championships England 3-0 Israel 08-09-2007
European Championships England 3-0 Russia 12-09-2007
European Championships England 3-0 Estonia 13-10-2007
European Championships Russia 2-1 England 17-10-2007
International Austria 0-1 England 16-11-2007
European Championships England 2-3 Croatia 21-11-2007


Capello

International England 2-1 Switzerland 06-02-2008
International France 1-0 England 26-03-2008
International England 2-0 USA 28-05-2008
International Trinidad 0-3 England 01-06-2008
International England 2-2 Czech Rep 20-08-2008
World Cup Andorra 0-2 England 06-09-2008
World Cup Croatia 1-4 England 10-09-2008
World Cup England 5-1 Kazakhstan 11-10-2008
World Cup Belarus 1-3 England 15-10-2008
International Germany 1-2 England 19-11-2008
International Spain 2-0 England 11-02-2009
International England 4-0 Slovakia 28-03-2009
World Cup England 2-1 Ukraine 01-04-2009
World Cup Kazakhstan 0-4 England 06-06-2009
World Cup England 6-0 Andorra 10-06-2009
International Holland 2-2 England 12-08-2009
International England 2-1 Slovenia 05-09-2009
World Cup England 5-1 Croatia 09-09-2009
World Cup Ukraine 1-0 England 10-10-2009
World Cup England 3-0 Belarus 14-10-2009
International Brazil 1-0 England 14-11-2009
International England 3-1 Egypt 03-03-2010
International England 3-1 Mexico 24-05-2010
International Japan 1-2 England 30-05-2010
World Cup England 1-1 USA 12-06-2010
World Cup England 0-0 Algeria 18-06-2010
World Cup Slovenia 0-1 England 23-06-2010
World Cup Germany 4-1 England 27-06-2010
International England 2-1 Hungary 11-08-2010
European Championships England 4-0 Bulgaria 03-09-2010
European Championships Switzerland 1-3 England 07-09-2010
European Championships England 0-0 Montenegro 12-10-2010


Apart from a mauling or two of Croatia, there is not much to crow about in the last five years. Blue denotes our victories, but there is a lot of ordinary teams that we have beaten along the way. When it comes to playing a decent side, we invariably lose or certainly do not win.

 

[vegster]

Whenever the chips are down we fall flat on our arses, i'm apretty patriotic bloke but the England football team have let me down too often. I don't even bother watching now.

 

[crodonilson]

We missed Lamps on Tuesday night, penetrating late runs from midfield and a threat of a goal.

I don't subscribe to the fact we're ordinary, where are we in the rankings 6th?? That seems about right to me, Tuesday was a bad night at the office but I've seen enough encouragement from the previous results to suggest we will qualify for the promised land of Poland and Ukraine 2012. I am however very concerned about the form of Wazza, his return to last seasons form can only come soon enough.