Father Jack
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- Aug 21, 2005
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You are not being racist at all. I think i would have done the same.
Safeway said:So, in answer to the original question, you'd say Oceanic has been racist? Irrational, maybe, but not racist.
DJ Leon said:How many users of the tube would NEVER and I mean NEVER look at someone who could be a Muslim and is behaving oddly and think 'hang on, I don't like this'?
London Irish said:Let me put it this way. You witness a situation where a group of white lads move away from a "Muslim" (ie. anyone from a Brazilian to an Eskimo) on a train.
My view is that you are a hundred-thousand times more likely to be looking at jumpy racists than a bomber, but, of course, you may well be looking at neither, who can tell?
London Irish said:Oh, I'd say 100 per cent of Muslim users of the tube.
DJ Leon said:I think you're probably wrong there.
Safeway said:As has been said before with this in mind it is unfortunate, yet nonetheless inevitable, that people are going to behave differently when they see things that could be associated with terror.
It only becomes racism when the same people start to discriminate against 'Muslims' by way of boycotting businesses, personal attacks etc.
Oceanic said:I and a few others got called racists (I'm not a racist) last weekend on the underground. Am I a racist for doing it or did I make the right decision? would you feel uncomfortable being in the same situation as I was last weekend?
Came back from Manchester and got the tube from Euston to London Victoria to catch my connecting train too Brighton.
I sat on the tube train and was reading the Sunday paper when a Muslim sat opposite me, he put his bag in between his legs and just stared ahead, more like into space, I couldn’t concentrate on my paper as I kept looking at him, really felt uneasy. After a bit we made eye contact so when we arrived at the next stop I got off and so did many others, we went into the next carriage. With this, he ranted and raved about us being racists as we didn’t want to sit next to a Muslim and the whole country are racists towards his countrymen/woman.
It wasn’t that we didn’t want to sit next to him, it was his bag, we all had the same idea but didn’t want to say anything otherwise we’d have been arrested for being racists. Am I a racist, over reacting or just being cautious?
What would you do if you was in a familiar situation as me?
Safeway said:FACT: All of the suicide bombers in London were of Asian appearance.
FACT: All of the suicide bombers in London were carrying bags/rucksacks.
FACT: There have been specific warnings since that more attacks are imminent.
London Irish said:OK, I accept that. I'm sure some of your best friends are Muslims, so you speak with authority.
Tom Hark said:There's no right and no wrong in your situation. You feel scared. Rightly so. The guy opposite you feels victimised. Rightly so. Nobody wants to be blown up on a tube train. Nobody wants to be made to feel like a leper on a tube train. Dunno, seems to me that everybody in the situation is reacting in an entirely understandable way. Human nature innit?
Its the same at airports - had a muslim on my flight in states - you feel bad but you just never know.pasty said:Me too, and I agree with you as well. I get ever so slightly nervous each time I see a muslim looking person carrying a rucksack. It is irrational, it's not very nice, but you can't help yourself thinking what if.......
DJ Leon said:It's intersting that you assume that none of my friends are Muslim, care to explain why you seem pretty confident of that?
London Irish said:I wasn't assuming anything. I'm just curious why you were suddenly speaking on behalf of Muslims rather than just paranoid whitey.
DJ Leon said:Well I agree, but London Irish doesn't. I really can't make out why.
London Irish said:paranoid whitey.