Divided Supporters

[Withdean Wanderer]

Is this a modern thing, or has it existed for years?

McGhee In/Outers
Henderson backers/Kuipers lovers
Those who back the board and don't

I can't remember fans being divided before in my 6 years or so supporting the club, so why is it happening so much now?

Edit: Please note, i am not talking about fans on the INTERNET, i am talking about those AT MATCHES

 

[chez]

I mentioned this the other week. Ive been watching The Albion since 1982 and Ive never known such disharmony between the fans.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

I mentioned this the other week. Ive been watching The Albion since 1982 and Ive never known such disharmony between the fans.

Maybe that indicates just how discontented some are!
A bloke near me was close to punching the person next to him who dared suggest that Henderson was not at fault for the goal. They were at each others throats for a good few minutes.

 

[surrey jim]

Happy for Wilkins
Want the best keeper
Want the investor with the long the club aims



So wheres the fence

 

[Yorkie]

It's exactly what Lewes want.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

It's exactly what Lewes want.

I think they are used as a scapegoat a bit too often these days.

 

[British Bulldog]

Is this a modern thing, or has it existed for years?

McGhee In/Outers
Henderson backers/Kuipers lovers
Those who back the board and don't

I can't remember fans being divided before in my 6 years or so supporting the club, so why is it happening so much now?

It's called the internet!

 

[Zesh Rehman]

Maybe that indicates just how discontented some are!
A bloke near me was close to punching the person next to him who dared suggest that Henderson was not at fault for the goal. They were at each others throats for a good few minutes.

that was quite shocking that them 2 blokes almost almost started on each other.

 

[Zesh Rehman]

I think they are used as a scapegoat a bit too often these days.

also agree

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Re: Re: Divided Supporters

It's called the internet!

So NSC is part of the reason why fans at the game are arguing over our goalkeeper situation? Bit of an exagguration, but i suppose the disagreements are emphasised and revealed more on the web.

But i've been on a form of NSC since about 2001, and don't recall there being much, if any division between the fans. Even when we were on the 12 game losing streak.

 

[Yorkie]

I think they are used as a scapegoat a bit too often these days.

Why? They are the cause of us still being at Withdean. We got planning permission in 2002. We would have been in Falmer stadium by now and with investment to buy decent players.
Maybe there would still be disagreements about which player is better in which position but we wouldn't be in such dire straights as we are now.

 

[Zesh Rehman]

Why? They are the cause of us still being at Withdean. We got planning permission in 2002. We would have been in Falmer stadium by now and with investment to buy decent players.
Maybe there would still be disagreements about which player is better in which position but we wouldn't be in such dire straights as we are now.

or we would have had a stadium, been more skint than we are now, and been getting 5000 fans into a 22000 stadium.

you cant blame everything on the stadium you know.

 

[Gully]

I just reckon it is that we are battle weary. We had become so used to fighting to save our club, having done so for so long, now that the real decision is completely out of our hands and we can't do anything about it we have turned on ourselves. There will always be disagreement in general terms about team selection and who we should or shouldn't buy/have bought, but I can't honestly remember it being this bad.

Hopefully the green light for Falmer will come soon, then we can go back to normal.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Why? They are the cause of us still being at Withdean. We got planning permission in 2002. We would have been in Falmer stadium by now and with investment to buy decent players.
Maybe there would still be disagreements about which player is better in which position but we wouldn't be in such dire straights as we are now.

I agree with that, but i don't think everything can be blamed on them.

Fans would be content (well, only just) at Withdean with a winning team, with SOME money being spent on it. But now all we are told is that 'money is available'. However, it's never spent. Players used to come, but don't any more. Why is that? I'm not sure, but often at this point you'd see a 'McGhee destroyed the clubs reputation' debate - something Lewes Council can't be blamed for.

The players have come before, and now Withdean is apparently 'better', it shouldn't be an excuse. There's only so much blame Lewes can recieve if the money really is there to be spent.

 

[British Bulldog]

Re: Re: Re: Divided Supporters

So NSC is part of the reason why fans at the game are arguing over our goalkeeper situation? Bit of an exagguration, but i suppose the disagreements are emphasised and revealed more on the web.

But i've been on a form of NSC since about 2001, and don't recall there being much, if any division between the fans. Even when we were on the 12 game losing streak.

Take yourself back to 6 or so years ago when you started supporting the Albion, There was a sort of NSC and other forums but nothing like there is these days with more and more people becoming internet wise. Then lets add to that things like the SCR phone in! Ok Harty has been a great fan of the Albion but there's nothing he likes better than to get on there and stir the shit among fans because it keeps his wages coming in from the BBC.

Supporting the Albion used to be about going to games and debating things in the pub afterwards, but times have moved on and now people can sit in the comfort of their own homes and become experts on all things Albion.

 

[Yorkie]

I agree with that, but i don't think everything can be blamed on them.

Fans would be content (well, only just) at Withdean with a winning team, with SOME money being spent on it. But now all we are told is that 'money is available'. However, it's never spent. Players used to come, but don't any more. Why is that? I'm not sure, but often at this point you'd see a 'McGhee destroyed the clubs reputation' debate - something Lewes Council can't be blamed for.

The players have come before, and now Withdean is apparently 'better', it shouldn't be an excuse. There's only so much blame Lewes can recieve if the money really is there to be spent.

Over 3 million quid has been spent on the legal fees in the last 4 years. What do you think we could have done with that instead?

 

[London Irish]

Re: Re: Divided Supporters

It's called the internet!

Spot on. The idea that "it's just a messageboard" is bullshit, much of the bad things that start on here tend to spread out these days into the wider fan base.

Take the "McGhee is a racist" (so-called) joke that a few anti-McGhee'ers had some fun with to pass the time on here. Within a month I saw that comment at one of our away games start a fight among our fans

But I don't think the internet is mainly to blame, it just allows discontent and disagreement to spread quicker and in a more unhelpful way. The discontent has to be there to start with.

And for me, the source of that discontent is over-expectation among Brighton fans, and specifically the back-to-back championships causing many Brighton fans to think that the great problems of the 1990s had been solved.

The last 3 or so years has been a reality check for many that nothing long-term has been solved. That we remain an impoverished club with no real future without a new ground. Many have not been able to cope with that reality and have saught refuge in hammering scapegoats to explain our problems. And that's when the rancour and the arguments starts, alas

 

[clapham_gull]

I blame the younger generation, they just won't admit when they are wrong.

 

[Withdean Wanderer]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Divided Supporters

Supporting the Albion used to be about going to games and debating things in the pub afterwards, but times have moved on and now people can sit in the comfort of their own homes and become experts on all things Albion.

I'm not saying that's not the case.

But what about the situation at the end of last season, as some abused McGhee from behind the dugout and some shouted them down.

Now you see fellow supporters arguing about squad selection and appropriate abuse of player levels! Now i appreciate that NSC might have made some sort of contribution, but it really shouldn't effect what goes on DURING the match, should it?

 

[Trigger]

I blame the younger generation, they just won't admit when they are wrong.

I blame journalists.