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Dick's Bar: definitive (hopefullly!)opening times, rules re kids, plus Dark Star news
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I wonder if the uni will see a money spinner and do something like this?
Cadiz Seagull
Grey bearded old man
Definitely shouldn't allow kids in. Only grandparents.
Barrel of Fun
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We are all God's children. Michel is going to have the place to himself.
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No argument from me about kids not being allowed in. Seems quite reasonable. It's a bar and they want to maximise revenue 
Spare me the "community stadium" business, we all know what that was really about.
Spare me the "community stadium" business, we all know what that was really about.
No argument from me about kids not being allowed in. Seems quite reasonable. It's a bar and they want to maximise revenue
Spare me the "community stadium" business, we all know what that was really about.
Well said. Rep on way.
attila
1997 Club
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Just come in from dealing with a REAL binfest (a dustbin crawling with maggots - my fault for not gutting my fish in situ after my last trip to Southwick Arm, the bream and mackerel are in big time, fellow sea anglers) to find this one!
Everything is new. We most certainly are being listened to (proof of that is the fact that we have a supporters' bar) Club policy is being made on the hoof, and can be changed if our points are recognised as valid, there is no doubt of that. If the majority of fans want kids to be allowed in (and I am with the yes vote, it's supposed to be a community stadium) then I am sure that, as long as it is indeed within the terms of the licence, it can happen. I would agree that communication has not been of the best on occasions, which is why i have done my best to sort things out - but what we have is MAGNIFICENT, let's celebrate it
Everything is new. We most certainly are being listened to (proof of that is the fact that we have a supporters' bar) Club policy is being made on the hoof, and can be changed if our points are recognised as valid, there is no doubt of that. If the majority of fans want kids to be allowed in (and I am with the yes vote, it's supposed to be a community stadium) then I am sure that, as long as it is indeed within the terms of the licence, it can happen. I would agree that communication has not been of the best on occasions, which is why i have done my best to sort things out - but what we have is MAGNIFICENT, let's celebrate it
The Grockle
Formally Croydon Seagull
No argument from me about kids not being allowed in. Seems quite reasonable. It's a bar and they want to maximise revenue
Spare me the "community stadium" business, we all know what that was really about.
Couldnt agree more, the bar has an extremely limited capacity it would be unfair on everyone else if it was a quarter filled with screaming kids nursing a soft drink for two hours, Its not a whacky bleeding warehouse.
stevedx
New member
So my son has to wait 6 years to see something he is part of then, is that what your saying?
And if the club doesnt need there custom, then they dont need the custom of anyone with kids eh? Be very careful, that is a huge amount of people you wish to get rid off!
torchieboy
Active member
i assume that you dont have children ? whats wrong with my money being spent in the bar buying myself a pint and food and drink/food for my boy ?
I take my boy into pubs at all away matches we go to. theres never a problem unless theres the non parent who says that he wants a adult bar where
no children are going to say 'dad why's that man all on his own, with no friends'
Colossal Squid
Returning video tapes
But children are prohibited from licensed bars without adult supervision, in those where they are welcome.
The reason children DON'T have as much right to be there as adults is that this is a BAR, it's not a cafe on match days. A cafe would make sense. A bar does not.
How people are STILL arguing this is beyond me. Children MAY NOT drink alcohol. They are prohibited from being sold it. And no matter how you dress it up, this bar is for people to drink alcoholic drinks in.
Why, seriously, should children be allowed in, other than to appease the fans who want to go drinking themselves but have to look after children? And I've already addressed the issue about inadequate table and shelving facilities elsewhere in the stadium. This is a problem and I hope the club look into it. But not at the expense of turning the supporters bar into a children's area. You have free reign of the entire stadium, aside from the exclusive member only hospitality sections (including the 1901 club, if they're not members). What on earth makes you so adamant that you have every right to take your children into a bar where people will be drinking alcohol, using profane language and trying to relax without someone else's progeny getting amongst their feet?
Assuming you could sit down and put your concourse bought beer down on a table/ledge elsewhere in the stadium, why would children have any desire to sit around in the supporters bar whilst daddy gets drunk?
If you believe the club made assurances or even suggestions that this would be a family area, and I've missed this, then by all means you have reason to be miffed. BUT on the simple basis that this is just a bar, I ask again, WHY should children be allowed in? Bars are not, will not be and have never been places for children to enjoy or be entertained in. That such places exist, to cater for those who do want to enjoy a watering hole with their family, is great but it is still not the accepted norm. Kids do not belong in bars FULL STOP.
They are TOLERATED in family friendly bars, and usually welcomed in those specifically targeting families for food but this is NOT what the supporters bar at our stadium is about. It is just a bar where people go to drink beer. Kids don't drink beer.
Why on earth is this so difficult to grasp?
If you genuinely believe ALL kids should be allowed in ALL bars then you're being stupid. If you believe that kids should be allowed in this stadium bar because thats what the club lead you to believe would be acceptable previously then take it up with the club.
Perhaps you could lobby for a family friendly cafe to be built somewhere else in the stadium. A place where you could still get your beer AND enjoy the company of your own and other people's offspring whilst sitting in comfort. This place sounds like it should exist but this place is not the supporters bar
Beach Seagull
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- Jan 2, 2010
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[QUOTE)Haven't you just backed up my point there? The premises needs to have given its approval to allow children in. But there is absolutely no need for it to do so in this instance.
You either appease the fans who want kids in, at the risk of upsetting those who don't, or you just make the fairly straightforward decision to not allow kids in on match days. With demand high and space at a premium, why would you want to encourage MORE people to use the place than you need to?[/QUOTE]
Well said.
Pubs / Bars are adult environments where an adult should be allowed to relax over a few beers and not have to worry about the odd swear word causing offence to someone in there with their children, or have to dodge children running around the place when trying to carry 2-3 pints.
Surely if you have children you would not want to take them into a 'football supporters bar?' I know when I take my nephew (9 yr old) I would not dream of taking him to a bar (either Dicks or in Lewes, Brighton) as i dont think its a suitable environment for one so young. I would do the 'family thing' and have a burger and a coke on the concourse and then make our way to our seats and watch the players warm up etc. Surely if you have children you have to accept there are some places that are just not suitable for children and surely a fans bar provides a good example of such a place, just enjoy taking your children to the Amex and dont feel your day is spoilt because you cant have a couple of pints in Dicks before the match.
You either appease the fans who want kids in, at the risk of upsetting those who don't, or you just make the fairly straightforward decision to not allow kids in on match days. With demand high and space at a premium, why would you want to encourage MORE people to use the place than you need to?[/QUOTE]
Well said.
Pubs / Bars are adult environments where an adult should be allowed to relax over a few beers and not have to worry about the odd swear word causing offence to someone in there with their children, or have to dodge children running around the place when trying to carry 2-3 pints.
Surely if you have children you would not want to take them into a 'football supporters bar?' I know when I take my nephew (9 yr old) I would not dream of taking him to a bar (either Dicks or in Lewes, Brighton) as i dont think its a suitable environment for one so young. I would do the 'family thing' and have a burger and a coke on the concourse and then make our way to our seats and watch the players warm up etc. Surely if you have children you have to accept there are some places that are just not suitable for children and surely a fans bar provides a good example of such a place, just enjoy taking your children to the Amex and dont feel your day is spoilt because you cant have a couple of pints in Dicks before the match.
torchieboy
Active member
but I would spend more money in there that you if i took my son, so the crap that people are saying about maximising revenue is bullshit. He's well behaved so theres your answer to the 'screaming kids'
bob monkhouse
Hmmmm........
No argument from me about kids not being allowed in. Seems quite reasonable. It's a bar and they want to maximise revenue
Spare me the "community stadium" business, we all know what that was really about.
As always the voice of reason.
Will you have my children Edna ? ..... Oh maybe not
torchieboy
Active member
Well said.
Pubs / Bars are adult environments where an adult should be allowed to relax over a few beers and not have to worry about the odd swear word causing offence to someone in there with their children, or have to dodge children running around the place when trying to carry 2-3 pints.
Surely if you have children you would not want to take them into a 'football supporters bar?' I know when I take my nephew (9 yr old) I would not dream of taking him to a bar (either Dicks or in Lewes, Brighton) as i dont think its a suitable environment for one so young. I would do the 'family thing' and have a burger and a coke on the concourse and then make our way to our seats and watch the players warm up etc. Surely if you have children you have to accept there are some places that are just not suitable for children and surely a fans bar provides a good example of such a place, just enjoy taking your children to the Amex and dont feel your day is spoilt because you cant have a couple of pints in Dicks before the match.[/QUOTE]
don't have kids i assume?
why do you need to feel the need to swear in a pub, surely after your first shandy you dont get loud and start swearing do you. ?
Beach Seagull
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- Jan 2, 2010
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don't have kids i assume?
why do you need to feel the need to swear in a pub, surely after your first shandy you dont get loud and start swearing do you. ?[/QUOTE]
No children no, but that does not mean I'm not allowed to have an opinion.
I dont drink shandy and I rarely swear, but I would've thought in a football fans bar on a sat afternoon / evening you may well hear the odd profanity.
it's a fans bar and so therefore should be packed to rafters each week with boozy singing seagulls. correct?
i have a kid... albeit too young for the football... but i can't image my child would particularly enjoy a packed pub atmosphere. can't image i would want to take a child to the fan's bar either. each to there own though.
perhaps this is a case of people wanting to booze in the fan's bar AND bring their kid along... when you can't really do both successfully. i was sort of hoping the fans bar would be loud and raucous and not particularly child friendly. the east stand is the family stand...
i have a kid... albeit too young for the football... but i can't image my child would particularly enjoy a packed pub atmosphere. can't image i would want to take a child to the fan's bar either. each to there own though.
perhaps this is a case of people wanting to booze in the fan's bar AND bring their kid along... when you can't really do both successfully. i was sort of hoping the fans bar would be loud and raucous and not particularly child friendly. the east stand is the family stand...
Colossal Squid
Returning video tapes
EXACTLY right. And I am delighted other parents are starting to pitch in here, proving the point it's not just bitter childless folk with an axe to grind who don't see the need to admit children
stevedx
New member
But it still doesnt take away from my original point, of the fact that the children are in the mosaic and would like to see themselves on it, so why should they be stopped.
Like I said before many people do not have means to make special trips just to show the kids the mosaic at another time.
Also picking up on something CS said, it is a supporter bar, yes you are right, but exactly that a SUPPORTERS bar, most of the 'said children' are supporters! My son for example saved his pocket money etc, to pay for his own season ticket, so he could say he was a supporter and not a 'follower or JCL'.
And me spending money in there for him, is no different to if there was an adult in his place, the money is still the same, or is my money not got enough?
Like I said before many people do not have means to make special trips just to show the kids the mosaic at another time.
Also picking up on something CS said, it is a supporter bar, yes you are right, but exactly that a SUPPORTERS bar, most of the 'said children' are supporters! My son for example saved his pocket money etc, to pay for his own season ticket, so he could say he was a supporter and not a 'follower or JCL'.
And me spending money in there for him, is no different to if there was an adult in his place, the money is still the same, or is my money not got enough?