Club shop complaint

[¡Cereal Killer!]

are you on comission for church sq?

No, just cant be arsed to walk up Church Street to go into a small shop with littl space to walk around.

Thinking about it though, if we get a bigger shop, we will probably be trying to sel more shit than we are at the moment. lol, although we can get a little Skint section with CD's and stuff made by Skint, a general football area selling boots and gloves etc made by errea etc etc

 

[Woodchip]

How about actually spending a day with family?!?!?! Might actually restore some family values to this f***ed up nation!!! If everone sat down with their family once a week for a meal it might actually breed respect into people.

 

[magoo]

All shops should be closed on Sundays and on Bank Holidays.

I am at least grateful for the fact that the Government resisted pressure from large chains to extend the Sunday opening laws beyond the current 6-hour limit.

Yes i too am grateful i can't go and check out a few shops whenever i like. Any shop should be allowed to open 24/7 if it wants. There are people that would work it and there are people that would shop it.

 

[n1 gull]

How about actually spending a day with family?!?!?! Might actually restore some family values to this f***ed up nation!!! If everone sat down with their family once a week for a meal it might actually breed respect into people.

Not enough time to sit down with the family, got to go to the shops as they're only open for a poxy 6 hours.

Everything should be open when it wants. I don't understand why the Government should tell shops when they should open, its simple market economics of supply and demand.

 

[Pigsy]

Last time I was in there, in May, with two small children (who ran around grabbing at every item) they seemed remarkably cheery. Except for the bloke on the till, I had to wait ten minutes whilst he chatted to his mate on his mobile before I could pay.

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

Re: Re: Club shop complaint

It's for religious reasons.

It closes every Sunday religiously.

 

[Spiros]

Not enough time to sit down with the family, got to go to the shops as they're only open for a poxy 6 hours.

Everything should be open when it wants. I don't understand why the Government should tell shops when they should open, its simple market economics of supply and demand.

If the shops can all open 24/7 do you honestly think that people will buy more stuff than they do now? Assuming they don't then you're talking about shops all being open for longer (ie at more cost) to do the same amount of business. Now that might be alright for the Tescos, B&Qs and others who can afford to hire thousands of lousily paid teenagers, but that puts the proper decent shops in the high street at a distinct disadvantage, especially those where the owner is the only one in the shop.

If you want a country where every town high street (if it's still there) has the same shops wherever you are then fine. Me - I like to see different shops selling differrent stuff to what I am forced to buy from the big chains. The Albion club shop is in the same position. If they open for an extra day they won't make any more money, but they'll have to pay out more in wages for what they sell.

 

[Scoffers]

Not enough time to sit down with the family, got to go to the shops as they're only open for a poxy 6 hours.

Everything should be open when it wants. I don't understand why the Government should tell shops when they should open, its simple market economics of supply and demand.

I believe that restricted opening hours were setup to prevent staff from being forced into working too many hours, but I may be wrong!

 

[Dave the OAP]

How about actually spending a day with family?!?!?! Might actually restore some family values to this f***ed up nation!!! If everone sat down with their family once a week for a meal it might actually breed respect into people.

you would end up killing eachother

 

[London Irish]

OK, allow me to rephrase, since I didn't really make my point accurately.

Speaking as someone who works in shops myself, and who does work on Sundays occasionally, I just can't see the harm in having one day completely work-free for everyone (doesn't even really have to be Sunday).

What can you buy on a Sunday that is so vital to your existence that you couldn't wait 24 hours for? When you see the sad acts queuing outside the place where I work on a Sunday morning just for the sake of buying a chocolate bar, it brings home the point that the whole country (and world) is vastly over-commercialised, and I can't see how a 24 hour break from that each week would harm anyone.

PS: Christmas Eve falls on a Sunday this year, and I look forward to shutting the shop doors at 4:30 pm and actually being able to enjoy some of Christmas Eve with my family rather than having to hang around until about 7pm to help out any sad bastard who has left it to the last minute to buy crackers. Again.

I also look forward to telling my employer where to stick it when they ask if I'm available for longer than my contracted hours on that (because you can bet dollars to doughnuts that the Government will grant an exemption from Sunday trading laws on that day under pressure from companies interested in their seasonal bank balances).

I guess your opinion on the matter would be largely dictated on your point-of-view of the situation though.

Great post

I occasionally moan about the inconvenience of not finding a shop open exactly when I want it to be, but surely that's nothing against shopworkers having their family time disrupted and their working conditions further casualised.

 

[Les Biehn]

Until recently I always worked in shops either full-time and part-time. The problem was not so much the hours, they were always the same (about 9 hours) but the problem was the unsocialble hours. Working on Saturdays and Sundays is shite, especially if you like to watch or play football. Also late nights can be a bit of a fucker and the holidays (christmas mainly) are pretty much a write off. It means that your working pattern is a bit f***ed which always pissed me off more than the hours.

 

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

Great post

I occasionally moan about the inconvenience of not finding a shop open exactly when I want it to be, but surely that's nothing against shopworkers having their family time disrupted and their working conditions further casualised.

Thay don't HAVE to work in shops. There are other job opportunities available. Why should we live in a place with a 1950's attitude to services?

 

[finbar]

If the shops can all open 24/7 do you honestly think that people will buy more stuff than they do now? Assuming they don't then you're talking about shops all being open for longer (ie at more cost) to do the same amount of business. Now that might be alright for the Tescos, B&Qs and others who can afford to hire thousands of lousily paid teenagers, but that puts the proper decent shops in the high street at a distinct disadvantage, especially those where the owner is the only one in the shop.

If you want a country where every town high street (if it's still there) has the same shops wherever you are then fine. Me - I like to see different shops selling differrent stuff to what I am forced to buy from the big chains. The Albion club shop is in the same position. If they open for an extra day they won't make any more money, but they'll have to pay out more in wages for what they sell.

What he said!!!

There was recent referendum in Western Australia and the people voted against lengthening of opening hours for stores with more than a certain meterage of floor space exactly for that reason - it would lead to small shops with a few staff being unable to open all hours and compete against the major chain stores. The smaller stores would lose revenue and they'd eventually go to the wall. The solution they came up with was perfect, large chain stores cant open all hours, but the smaller stores can if they want too. Genius. f*** tescos, long live Taj (until it sells out to tescos)

 

[Les Biehn]

Thay don't HAVE to work in shops. There are other job opportunities available. Why should we live in a place with a 1950's attitude to services?

Well thats fair enough then, despite the fact that a lot of students and underqualified people work in these place because it is the only place they can they should just be f***ed over. Nice.

 

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

Well thats fair enough then, despite the fact that a lot of students and underqualified people work in these place because it is the only place they can they should just be f***ed over. Nice.

Students mainly work weekends. If they want a job while they study then they have little choice. Perhaps all that nasty weekend working could act as an incentive for them to study hard and get a better job. There are still other jobs that don't require loads of qualifications too.

Why shouldn't shops be open? People demand that other service industries are there all day Sunday so why not shops too? You'd get the arse if you couldn't go for a pint Sunday evenings, or if you needed medical attention at the hospital and they'd knocked off as working Sunday ruined their family life. Nobody worries about them do they? Bollocks to your idea that they get f***ed over. There are enough people unemployed in the country to ensure that shops could open, and be staffed if they were allowed. If current retail staff don't want to do it, there's someone that will.

 

[silky1]

Or instead of debating whether or not the shop opens on a Sunday, you could shop online. Takes away a great deal of the pain.

 

[Cian]

All shops should be closed on Sundays and on Bank Holidays.

I am at least grateful for the fact that the Government resisted pressure from large chains to extend the Sunday opening laws beyond the current 6-hour limit.

Why? I frequently have to go in to work on sundays, and I'm damn grateful that we have has NO restrictions on weekend opening for some years now. If I'm going to be prevented from going in to Tesco to stock up on caffeine at 11:30pm on a Sunday evening, I'm going to crash my car on the M4 and cause a pileup... it destroys lifes, closing on sundays

 

[Cian]

How about actually spending a day with family?!?!?! Might actually restore some family values to this f***ed up nation!!! If everone sat down with their family once a week for a meal it might actually breed respect into people.

Removal of sunday trading laws here didn't cause a societal melt down did it? Its not going to stop chav culture if you can't buy your white lightning or special brew on a sunday.

 

[Les Biehn]

Students mainly work weekends. If they want a job while they study then they have little choice. Perhaps all that nasty weekend working could act as an incentive for them to study hard and get a better job. There are still other jobs that don't require loads of qualifications too.

Why shouldn't shops be open? People demand that other service industries are there all day Sunday so why not shops too? You'd get the arse if you couldn't go for a pint Sunday evenings, or if you needed medical attention at the hospital and they'd knocked off as working Sunday ruined their family life. Nobody worries about them do they? Bollocks to your idea that they get f***ed over. There are enough people unemployed in the country to ensure that shops could open, and be staffed if they were allowed. If current retail staff don't want to do it, there's someone that will.

But people working in shops generally get lower pay than all the other industies. If people think that shop workers get double time on Sundays and Holidays then they are kidding themselves. More and more businesses are moving towards time and a third, well big f***ing whoop! The point is it is relevant to pay isn't it, people in other industries tend to get more while the majority in shops are on minimum wage.

 

[Kylies Stunt Arse]

But people working in shops generally get lower pay than all the other industies. If people think that shop workers get double time on Sundays and Holidays then they are kidding themselves. More and more businesses are moving towards time and a third, well big f***ing whoop! The point is it is relevant to pay isn't it, people in other industries tend to get more while the majority in shops are on minimum wage.

So are the people that work in pubs and restaurants, and the rest of the leisure industry, yet they are expected to be there all day and all night. I don't get double time for working 12 hour shifts on a sunday. This office is open 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, because if it wasn't people would complain that they couldn't get the service they needed.

It's very simple, if you don't like the hours and the money get another job. Someone will be prepared to do yours. No one is forcing people to work these hours.