I am beginning to think the N of NSC stands for Nazi. There are so many on here its embarrassing.
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Bnp win Euro seat.
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Collar Feeler
No longer feeling collars
- Jul 26, 2003
- 1,322
Some definitions for the non-racist non-bigoted BNP:
Racism:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Bigotry:
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
Good job the BNP policies and doctrine don't fall into those categories eh?
Racism:
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.
Bigotry:
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own.
2. the actions, beliefs, prejudices, etc., of a bigot.
Good job the BNP policies and doctrine don't fall into those categories eh?
Collar Feeler
No longer feeling collars
- Jul 26, 2003
- 1,322
Agreed! Posters starting threads admitting to being racist bigots is very strange. Not something I'd like to own up to. No matter what they argue or try to spin, the facts are that by definition the BNP are a racist bigoted party that promote such ideals in their policies and manifesto - that is a FACT you just need to read it on their website. So if people want to celebrate being associated with the BNP, good luck to them because it makes me feel all warm inside that I am not a BNP supporter!:yahoo:
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shoreham moonraker
New member
- Apr 11, 2009
- 1,374
im ashamed to be english today. nazi scum. thouroughly depressing.
Strange though this statement might be, I think the BNP doing relatively well in these elections is a good thing. For far too long the main parties and many posters on here have declared the BNP as insignificant and decended to name calling.
Hopefully the other parties will now remove their collective heads from their collective arses and address the issues that have helped increase the BNP vote. And when I say address I mean doing something a little more significant than shaking their head and calling the BNP a bunch of racists.
Hopefully the other parties will now remove their collective heads from their collective arses and address the issues that have helped increase the BNP vote. And when I say address I mean doing something a little more significant than shaking their head and calling the BNP a bunch of racists.
withdeanwombat
Well-known member
There has always been a loony right in this country,and there always will be.
Democracy demands that those who support the far right can vote,too,so it is up to the rest of us to outvote them,as constantly we do.
Sometimes,and for localised reasons there is a blip,but this will not last.
Highlights the problem of one or other of the leading parties suffering a drastic loss of support for whatever reason.
There is probably a posh political term for the "oh,bugger it,I'll vote for them" syndrome,but whatever it is,that's all that's happened.
And I wouldn't be surprised if some protest voters are feeling a little guilty about themselves now.
Democracy demands that those who support the far right can vote,too,so it is up to the rest of us to outvote them,as constantly we do.
Sometimes,and for localised reasons there is a blip,but this will not last.
Highlights the problem of one or other of the leading parties suffering a drastic loss of support for whatever reason.
There is probably a posh political term for the "oh,bugger it,I'll vote for them" syndrome,but whatever it is,that's all that's happened.
And I wouldn't be surprised if some protest voters are feeling a little guilty about themselves now.
Slough Seagull
Bye Bye Slough
- Nov 23, 2006
- 743
I would guarantee that half of the Pakistan 'supporters' would be wearing England shirts if it was the football team playing...
Perhaps if the british people were more willing to go and f***ing support their teams then?
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
- 9,894
1, They didn't, there were far more England fans than Pakistan fans
2, Why? it was excellent a genuine atmosphere at a match
3, The BNP have the bollocks to do what? Isolate us completely, and f*** up any chance of a financial recovery?
He retracted his holocaust denials but because Cat Stevens decided he wanted to embrace Islam it's all okay? Don't be so f***ing stupid.
I’m feeling a bit guilty this morning. I live in Yorkshire and I did vote in the Euro elections.
I’m a Labour man, but I was really incensed by the expenses row that I wanted to give them a bit of a kick up the backside. There was no way that I would ever vote Tory and Belotti, LDC have left a bad taste in my mouth re Lib dems. I wanted to vote for a party that at least supports being in Europe (ruled out Arthur Scargills socialist Labour party) and therefore voted Green.
Now what seems to have happened in Yorkshire is that the Labour Vote has crashed, with minority party’s getting the benefit, more so the BNP.
Now I know that I at least voted and I did not vote BNP, but I wish that I had voted Labour now. Maybe if I and other Labour supporters hadn’t been so quick to kick Labour, the BNP wouldn’t have got in. Then again, those to blame are those that voted BNP. Still leaves my conscience a bit unclear.
I’m a Labour man, but I was really incensed by the expenses row that I wanted to give them a bit of a kick up the backside. There was no way that I would ever vote Tory and Belotti, LDC have left a bad taste in my mouth re Lib dems. I wanted to vote for a party that at least supports being in Europe (ruled out Arthur Scargills socialist Labour party) and therefore voted Green.
Now what seems to have happened in Yorkshire is that the Labour Vote has crashed, with minority party’s getting the benefit, more so the BNP.
Now I know that I at least voted and I did not vote BNP, but I wish that I had voted Labour now. Maybe if I and other Labour supporters hadn’t been so quick to kick Labour, the BNP wouldn’t have got in. Then again, those to blame are those that voted BNP. Still leaves my conscience a bit unclear.
As a bit of an aside from the main topic of this thread did anyone else notice there were a fair few Pakistan fans with divided loyalties? There was one girl wearing an England shirt but waving a Pakistani flag and another guy wearing a Pakistan shirt but with English flags painted onto his face!
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
There may even have been some Pakistan fans on holiday watching the cricket. If we see white England supporters in the West Indies we don't assume they all live there.
You did nothing wrong. Those to blame are, as you say, those who voted BNP. Second to blame are those who did not vote.
It's a sorry day. I'm in agreement with Bertolt Brecht, the solution is to dissolve this electorate and choose another.
I agree and said a similar thing myself. It's no longer good enough (if it ever was) to simply say the BNP are racists and the people who vote for them are all moronic thugs. However it's one thing saying it and another addressing the issues (NOT just the expenses row) that caused people to vote BNP. The main parties may find it harder to 'reconnect with the British people' (copyright Hazel Blears) than they think.Strange though this statement might be, I think the BNP doing relatively well in these elections is a good thing. For far too long the main parties and many posters on here have declared the BNP as insignificant and decended to name calling.
Hopefully the other parties will now remove their collective heads from their collective arses and address the issues that have helped increase the BNP vote. And when I say address I mean doing something a little more significant than shaking their head and calling the BNP a bunch of racists.
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
- 5,634
As far as I am concerned - i'm glad.
Let's hope it gives them enough rope to hang themselves as stupid people won't prosper for too long.
Let's hope it gives them enough rope to hang themselves as stupid people won't prosper for too long.
Billy the Fish
Technocrat
Agree with that.
The mainstream politicans need to get their heads out of the sand. Last night on the BBC I heard a number of Labour candidates/MPs blame their poor showing on the expenses scandal. To say that over 100,000 people in each region voted for the BNP because of expenses, or purely because they are stupid is ignoring the problem.
The two areas in which the BNP won seats have a history of racial tension and large islamic communities, do people think that's a conincidence?
I see the far right got seats in holland as well, mabye there are some issues that need to be addressed that mainstream politics is too scared to talk about. Just a thought, but then again mabye some of you guys are right and the country's just full of ignorant racists
Bevendean Hillbilly
New member
Strange though this statement might be, I think the BNP doing relatively well in these elections is a good thing. For far too long the main parties and many posters on here have declared the BNP as insignificant and decended to name calling.
Hopefully the other parties will now remove their collective heads from their collective arses and address the issues that have helped increase the BNP vote. And when I say address I mean doing something a little more significant than shaking their head and calling the BNP a bunch of racists.
Nail.
It is not enough for politicians to claim over and over that voters don't know their own minds and are stupid for electing BNP candidates. If I was living in (God forbid) Burnley or Bradford and believed that I was being sidelined by culturally different immigrants or thought that my kids could'nt get into the local school because there was no places due to migration I might be tempted to vote for someone who promised to address that issue. Even Nick Clegg has awknowleged that for too long the mainstraem parties have ignored the concerns of those in the areas most affected by mass migration so shouldnt be surprised when it comes back to bite their arse.
The BNP are a bunch of halfwits who spend too much time wanking over "Hitlers Bodyguards" and "The SS" on the History channel to be taken seriously but there is a growing section of society who feel disenfranchised enough to vote for the far right..something which has never happened before in the History of British Politics...even during the 1930s when Moseley was at the height of his powers.. so to rubbish them or ignore the issue will do nothing to defeat the Nationalists, it will only help them gain more support.
Hotchilidog
Well-known member
- Jan 24, 2009
- 9,021
I quite agree, the BNP have to be confronted with constructive policy debate, not insults. Their analysis of the ills of British working class is based on the mistaken premise that is all the fault of "foreigners" and whilst they perpetuate this myth the solutions to those problems will elude them.
I suspect though that the main parties will court the disaffected BNP vote by pandering to their prejudices rather than seriously tackling urban poverty, such is the intellectual vacuum at the heart of the "labour" and tory parties.
No-one voted for Mosley because the British Union of Fascists never stood in a general election. It stood in the London County Council election but failed to win a single seat.
I'm not sure that I wholly go along with this idea that people who vote BNP aren't racists but feel disenfranchised from the political system. There were plenty of other parties to vote for if people wanted to make a protest vote (or even spoil a ballot) - so why pick a racist party?