Bnp win Euro seat.

[coventrygull]

He was convicted of incitement to racial hatred - against Jews. Non-membership of the Nazi party doesn't exactly make up for that.

But he has retracted his comments. Same as cat stevens

 

[coventrygull]

The BNP put out 450 candidates in the local elections last week. Their return? Just 3 councillors 2 of those were already councillors in far right areas and the 3rd was in another far right location. In the vast majority of cases the BNP finished last. Representative of Britain? Hardly! To be taken seriously? The local elections were a complete failure for the BNP.

Well you don't have to worry then do you.

 

[looney]

Agreed - but isn't the point that the BNP are now elected, therefore the racist policies that were voted for are exactly what the people want to hear?

Well labour are just as racist and just as good as keeping their racist agenda from being prevalent. Labour and The BNP mirror each other in so many ways and the left is clueless in how to deal with them, the bnp.

They think that tacking to the other exstreme is a way to combat the far right.

The opposite of racist is anti racist.

I would say the opposite of racial obsessive is colourblindness.

I would also say the opposite of nationalist is traitor.

If theres any shame tonight it all belongs with the left who need to take a long hard look at themselves.

 

[Juan Albion]

I would also say the opposite of nationalist is traitor.

No, the opposite of nationalist is global citizen.

 

[DTES]

But he has retracted his comments. Same as cat stevens

Has he? Oh, that's fine then - I'm sure we're agreed that he certainly means it, and didn't do so for political reasons.

 

[coventrygull]

No, the opposite of nationalist is global citizen.

Or someone who wants to preserve all peoples cultures and Identities

 

[Juan Albion]

Or someone who wants to preserve all peoples cultures and Identities

When has that EVER happened?

 

[coventrygull]

When has that EVER happened?

Thats what I want to happen

 

[Nottseagull]

. Representative of Britain? Hardly! To be taken seriously? The local elections were a complete failure for the BNP.

As a reasonably neutral political observer, I have to say that an increase in their vote coupled with the election of a county councillor for the first time can hardly be described as a "complete failure". The failure lies with the electoral system, which discriminates against smaller parties.

 

[Juan Albion]

Thats what I want to happen

And I want to be playboy of the month.

 

[coventrygull]

And I want to be playboy of the month.

Good luck. We can all dream.

 

[looney]

No, the opposite of nationalist is global citizen.

Theres no such thing. Do you always present idealised fantasies for real political debate?

A nationalist is someone with exstreme partizanship and loyalty to their country, the opposite attitude to their country is trecharey.

 

[coventrygull]

Theres no such thing. Do you always present idealised fantasies for real political debate?

A nationalist is someone with exstreme partizanship and loyalty to their country, the opposite attitude to their country is trecharey.

Thats not entirely true Looney. To tired to explain right now

 

[Juan Albion]

Theres no such thing. Do you always present idealised fantasies for real political debate?

A nationalist is someone with exstreme partizanship and loyalty to their country, the opposite attitude to their country is trecharey.

So in your view, the opposite of a political position is a criminal one?

If you don't think there are global citizens, you obviously haven't got out much.

 

[DTES]

Theres no such thing. Do you always present idealised fantasies for real political debate?

A nationalist is someone with exstreme partizanship and loyalty to their country, the opposite attitude to their country is trecharey.

Treacharey [sic] is, surely, exstreme [sic] partizanship against their country, using your definition? Personally, I'd say the opposite of extreme partizanship is.... absolutely no partizanship, which isn't treachery at all?

 

[clapham_gull]

As a reasonably neutral political observer, I have to say that an increase in their vote coupled with the election of a county councillor for the first time can hardly be described as a "complete failure". The failure lies with the electoral system, which discriminates against smaller parties.

It doesn't in the European or local elections. I'm not sure there has been an increase in their vote, they've creeped in on the back of people simply not voting for the major parties.

Forgot all this rubbish from Coventry about the party changing, quite simply it hasn't going by the bloke who has got the European seat.

 

[looney]

No, the opposite of nationalist is global citizen.

Allow me to intellectually humble you a bit more.The argument you are using is called a logical fallacy.

Its like I'm saying the opposite of someone who loves chips is someone who hates chips.

You are saying the opposite of someone who loves chips is someone who loves mashed potato.

Can you see how absurd you come across now?

 

[Juan Albion]

Allow me to intellectually humble you a bit more.The argument you are using is called a logical fallacy.

Its like I'm saying the opposite of someone who loves chips is someone who hates chips.

You are saying the opposite of someone who loves chips is someone who loves mashed potato.

Can you see how absurd you come across now?

Are you drunk?

 

[looney]

So in your view, the opposite of a political position is a criminal one?

If you don't think there are global citizens, you obviously haven't got out much.

Now you are using a straw man argument. Trechery is not neccasarily criminal, treason is.

Have you got a global citizens passport? Mine says British on it.

 

[coventrygull]

It doesn't in the European or local elections. I'm not sure there has been an increase in their vote, they've creeped in on the back of people simply not voting for the major parties.

Forgot all this rubbish from Coventry about the party changing, quite simply it hasn't going by the bloke who has got the European seat.

I think the overall vote for the BNP will be 9% which is a 5% increase. What makes you think that some of the people who didn't vote. Would not have voted for the BNP