Like others have said, I'm not aware that Andrew Sachs was actually offended, but isn't there just a teeny spot of irony in the fact that his career is based on a kind of racially-stereotyped humour that, these days, would be arguably even less acceptable than the comments Brand and Ross made?
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BBC suspends Brand and Ross.
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Wozza
Shite Supporter
You make it sound like you're going to be FORCED to listen to his stand-up show.
If you don't like it, don't go.
If you don't like his style of radio, don't listen to his show - like 99% of the country.
If you don't like it, there's no reason to COMPLAIN about it.
maffew
Well-known member
except the fact its license payers money and hes a crude offensive unfunny prat. Though I guess its some peoples cuppa tea, cant please everyone
sten_super
Brain Surgeon
Yes, pretty much. If you offend your audience, that is out of line, and you need to be bought to task for that. However, as you rightly say, the people listening to it (presumably) knew what to expect, and listen because they like his kind of humour. They weren't offended. Sachs probably was (as most of us would be in his situation). However the hoo-ha we are currently in is not as a result of Sachs or his granddaughter taking offence, it is the 18000 members of the 'great' British public.
I suppose my point is that this would have passed by 17998 of those people that complained, had it not been in the paper. They had no grounds for complaint; they had not heard the broadcast, or been offended by it.
Monkey Man
Your support is not that great
I don't watch Ross or listen to his show, at least not for a few years. I have read (and liked) Russell Brand's football writing. I've watched his stand-up act, smiled a few times, but don't ultimately think it's that funny.
I don't go to BNP rallies and haven't witnessed any knife attacks, but I'm pretty sure I'm against those too. I also don't think its fair or funny to leave obscene messages on the voicemail of a harmless, kindly old guy to get cheap laughs, especially when those doing it are so overpaid and lacking in talent.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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But you don't have to buy a TV license, you could just not watch TV no-one forces people to watch it
Dick Knights Mumm
Take me Home Falmer Road
no-one forces you to open your eyes - or why not just wear ear muffs all the time. It is your choice.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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The kindly old chap mocked the Spanish for cheap laughs?
Were Denis Pennis or Ali G suspended for being rude to other celebrities?
bright1064
New member
Sachs was offended, but has accepted the apologies of both Ross and Brand, and won't be taking the incident any further.
Andrew was playing the part of a Spanish waiter in an English hotel. He wasn't fluent in English and therefore had communication problems with his boss. Very funny indeed, and not one bit offensive to anyone. The joke was not racially motivated, or aimed at anyone.
However ringing up an elderly gentleman on national radio to tell him that you have "f***ed his grandaughter" is very offensive. Not only that but then to suggest that he may "kill himself" over the incident, is way out of line.
Wozza
Shite Supporter
Not quite the same, is it?
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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Someone who equates watching TV with opening their eyes is not someone who's opinion i value
maffew
Well-known member
Well it was on the radio to start with
maffew
Well-known member
No, but theres a bit of a line between banter and being offensive guess if you think phoning up a 78 year old man and saying you f***ed his granddaughter is good value for license payers money then hey ho
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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I'd rather that than Songs of Prais, or Mark Lawrenson on MOTD, or Chris Moyles, The Weakest Link, Little Britain, that shite with Piers Morgan, Last of the Summer Wine.
bright1064
New member
What the f*** are you talking about!? :thud:
He was playing a Spanish waiter...but where does he mock the Spanish??
I don't get it? Did you ever watch the 12 Fawlty Towers episodes, or are you just talking out of your arse?
Sake! JR shouted "he's F'd your grandaughter", it's not as if RB could have doen anything to prevent it.
He then said in a stupid voice something along the lines of "in the news today Richard Sachs was found hanged" which I admit is in bad taste but in context
he said it in 5 seconds and they immediately went on to a different topic.
The 'sorry song' was (imo very funny) but of course would have caused offence.
Unless you've heard it don't comment on it. It looks a lot worse in text than it actually was. This thread has just turned in to an excuse for people who don't like either JR or RB just to bitch at them.
Bit sad really.
keaton
Big heart, hot blood and balls. Big balls
- Nov 18, 2004
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Don't try thinking for yourselves, just go back to the Mail and the Sun and find something new to angry about today
bright1064
New member
I have heard it.
I have read the transcript as well.
How would you like it if at the age of 78 and with your wife ill in hospital I rang you on national radio and humiliated you by saying I had f***ed your grandaughter?? Then go on to suggest you might kill yourself, and then go on to suggest I should break into your house and "kiss you up and down" etc etc. And there was worse things said after that as well...
I had no problem with Ross or Brand. In fact I really enjoy pretty much everything Ross does, be it on telly or on the wireless. But this was in bad taste, and was bang out of order.
bright1064
New member
I'm perfectly capable of thinking for myself. Thanks anyway.