Battipiedi in DS team v QPR TODAY

[Turkey]

I can only assume that is not the reason.

It shouldnt be for the club to pay a player, to get fit and find another club, if no fee is involved.

That is for any prospective club to spend money on him, the Dev squad is to offer opportunity and experience for contracted players to advance for BHA.

I think you're focusing to heavily on the finding another club point. It's benefiting us as well as it looks like we need an extra player.

Plus the wages he'd be on would be very low anyway. You're looking at something like £250 a week in the dev squad and it's only for a few months.

 

[BigGully]

I think you're focusing to heavily on the finding another club point. It's benefiting us as well as it looks like we need an extra player.

Plus the wages he'd be on would be very low anyway. You're looking at something like £250 a week in the dev squad and it's only for a few months.

Nope, I am totally focusing on what might enhance the first team and the football club.

This isn't a comment on the player by the way, just a comment on your interpretation of why this might be convenient.

 

[pornomagboy]

Maybe Dickenson should be given a place an the bench now Hoskins is going to be out

 

[Lethargic]

Maybe he has been taken on as Leo's translator and buddy as a fellow countryman (yes I know we have other Spanish speakers but another Argie to make him feel welcome).

 

[Cheeky Monkey]

Maybe he has been taken on as Leo's translator and buddy as a fellow countryman (yes I know we have other Spanish speakers but another Argie to make him feel welcome).

Taricco? **cough**

 

[Turkey]

Nope, I am totally focusing on what might enhance the first team and the football club.

This isn't a comment on the player by the way, just a comment on your interpretation of why this might be convenient.

It's not a question of will benefit the first team, its whether it will benefit the Dev squad. There's a bunch of players on our dev squad who I personally don't think will ever benefit our first team. However, those who will, need players to play with.

 

[BigGully]

It's not a question of will benefit the first team, its whether it will benefit the Dev squad. There's a bunch of players on our dev squad who I personally don't think will ever benefit our first team. However, those who will, need players to play with.

I accept that in some circumstances senior players without a real prospect of first team involvement can offer some level of mentoring to younger players, both in training and games.

But rarely do clubs sign in a player on a short team deal to do this, you said yourself this is primarily for his own progress, not others.

Those within the Dev squad are being continually assessed and if as you say, are seen to not have the potential to benefit the first team will be swiftly released.

I get what your saying, but for me give the opportunity to another youngster that has yet to be proved not got enough.

 

[somerset]

You're looking at something like £250 a week in the dev squad and it's only for a few months.

No chance, 12K a year, what a random guess that must have been. DS squad members are probably on £25k at the lowest end, and something like £50k at the higher end, Toby, the Latvian etc.

 

[Springal]

No chance, 12K a year, what a random guess that must have been. DS squad members are probably on £25k at the lowest end, and something like £50k at the higher end, Toby, the Latvian etc.

Incorrect.

Anton Rodgers, in court, said he only earned £250 per week.

 

[Turkey]

No chance, 12K a year, what a random guess that must have been. DS squad members are probably on £25k at the lowest end, and something like £50k at the higher end, Toby, the Latvian etc.

It's not just a random guess. All the guys in court confirmed their wages.

 

[somerset]

Incorrect.

Anton Rodgers, in court, said he only earned £250 per week.

I am not going to say you are wrong, but the average League 2 salary last year was £750 per week ( £36k ), I am going to hazard a guess that is probably close to our dev squad incomes.

 

[Springal]

I am not going to say you are wrong, but the average League 2 salary last year was £750 per week ( £36k ), I am going to hazard a guess that is probably close to our dev squad incomes.

OK. But you are wrong.

 

[somerset]

It's not just a random guess. All the guys in court confirmed their wages.

Ok, I didnt see that so probably stand corrected, but I am still sceptical, £12k is barely a living wage for a full time player, conference players are easily earning more than that.

Why did their salaries come into play in a sex abuse case ( alleged)?

 

[Turkey]

I accept that in some circumstances senior players without a real prospect of first team involvement can offer some level of mentoring to younger players, both in training and games.

But rarely do clubs sign in a player on a short team deal to do this, you said yourself this is primarily for his own progress, not others.

Those within the Dev squad are being continually assessed and if as you say, are seen to not have the potential to benefit the first team will be swiftly released.

I get what your saying, but for me give the opportunity to another youngster that has yet to be proved not got enough.

They only tend to get released at the end of a season though, not as soon as the coaching staff have made a decision on their ability. Batti isn't even that old, 22 which is the same age as the left back we signed I believe?

He played for us at a young age, so many lads bit much younger than him haven't had that exposure to get deemed shit yet. If he fits into the group, helps fill out the squad and helps us it's a tiny outlay for us in football terms financially.

I don't think I said primarily, I basically agreed with Gus, it helps both parties.

 

[Turkey]

Ok, I didnt see that so probably stand corrected, but I am still sceptical, £12k is barely a living wage for a full time player, conference players are easily earning more than that.

The conference players are probably better footballers right now, certainly more suited to the physical side of it. These guys are still young and trying to prove they can make it in football. They may (I'm not sure) even still be studying.

 

[Munkfish]

YTS players are on £55 a week.

I would expect top end DS Players to be on no more than £500 a week.

They will also get litttle bonuses for playing games scoring etc.

also if they get called up to the first team bonuses for sitting on the bench coming on and playing for a win/loss.

However very small basic.

 

[Munkfish]

The conference players are probably better footballers right now, certainly more suited to the physical side of it. These guys are still young and trying to prove they can make it in football. They may (I'm not sure) even still be studying.

Only the under 18s still go to college, all of the DS team are essentially professional's any study would be in there own time like Orlandi is currently.

 

[Turkey]

Only the under 18s still go to college, all of the DS team are essentially professional's any study would be in there own time like Orlandi is currently.

Fair enough cheers for the insight.

 

[somerset]

The conference players are probably better footballers right now, certainly more suited to the physical side of it. These guys are still young and trying to prove they can make it in football. They may (I'm not sure) even still be studying.

Sorry, it doesnt wash mate,... if conference was a better standard than our DS players, they wouldn't go out on loan to L1 and 2 teams, surely conference would be better if you are correct in your assumption?! Until I see some credible evidence to the contrary I will stick to my view that DS players on full time contracts will be on £50k ish at the top end,... people on £12k do not stay at £100 per night hotels after big nights out on the town, well it my view anyway.

 

[Turkey]

Sorry, it doesnt wash mate,... if conference was a better standard than our DS players, they wouldn't go out on loan to L1 and 2 teams, surely conference would be better if you are correct in your assumption?! Until I see some credible evidence to the contrary I will stick to my view that DS players on full time contracts will be on £50k ish at the top end,... people on £12k do not stay at £100 per night hotels after big nights out on the town, well it my view anyway.

Just check the argus court blog for the facts if you don't believe me. The club probably pays for the accommodation at the hotel.

You say that but Barker is decent and played bugger all at Barnet before getting sent back. It doesn't look like Cheaterfield were desperate to keep Dickenson and Luton sent Kasim back early.