Talk me through some of FDM's less than great moments then.....
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Barnes red looks fair
- Thread starter Gary Stevens Neighbour
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Talk me through some of FDM's less than great moments then.....
Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
For the 2 footed tackle on Barnes, and the subsequent grabbing him forcefully round the throat while Barnes is on the floor, no, the Burnley player didn't even get a booking.
Another incident was their centre forward intentionally trying to score with his hand, the ref saw it, gave a free kick, but only gave him a yellow. I thought that was a straight red these days as well.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Oh right I didn't realise it was all to do with that, not sure about the rules on deliberate handball
generation x
its in the blood
- Nov 24, 2007
- 389
Watched the Barnes red this morning. The Burnley player initially went in two footed. Barnes went in with his right leg stretching and then jumped to avoid studs to his left. Barnes lands on him and gets grabbed around the throat. Ref in perfect position to see it all. Perhaps he was influenced by another Burnley player in his face at the time but it could have been a red for Burnley and possibly a yellow for Barnes.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
As both were straight reds I take it they get automatic 3 match bans ?
Tricky Dicky
New member
Presumably, unless we appeal. Don't know about Vincelot, but don't stand a chance appealing Barnes.
Beach Hut
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Thought you can only appeal in the Premiership ?
NMH
Banned
Of course, you are well known for your objectivity
When you actually say anything good about an Albion player... ah yes, I forgot about all those times
Dirty Dave
Well-known member
The hand ball looked like the henry v ireland incident. A blatant attempt of scoring with his hand as the ball was going kut of play
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Tricky Dicky
New member
Interesting, I've never heard that, but you could be right. Kinda adds to the lie that football is the same from the prem to Hackney marshes.
And complete tosh, of course you can appeal a red card right down to sunday park football. Where some people get these fantasies from is beyond belief.
BHAFC_AMEX
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- Feb 5, 2011
- 643
Of course we have a chance. He did nothing wrong!
the wanderbus
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The ref was an absolute wanker right from the off, I thought at the time there was no way Barnes should have been red carded & am even more convinced now I've seen it on TV. I cant believe the Sunday Mirror rated the twat 8/10 even without the sendings off he made more cock ups & mistakes than acceptable to even the most level headed fan. what about the defender wellying it over his own bar & getting a goal kick? & before anyone says it took a deflection , it was right in front of me, no it didn't. What a CVNT.
Have watched the incidnet over and over and over this morning and was really struggling to come up with the correct decision TBH. Looked at both players individually about 10 times each and i finally think that the decision was about right. I remember thinking at the time barnes came over the top of the ball and it looked a little reckless. The burnely player comes in with his left leg off the ground but his right tucked under him but wins the ball. Barnes effort is over the top and looks 10 x worse than the other guys and i think thats why he gets the red for dangerous play. BUT, having said that you cannot retaliate and the burnley guy quite clearly grabs him round the neck, something I thought was a red card offence. Im not trying to even things up here but raising your hands to someones facial region carries a red card in the FA rules of guidance. Both reds IMHO.
surlyseagull
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- Aug 23, 2008
- 847
So a foot out to make contact with an argie by Beckham is a sending off by an international ref but a grab of someones throat is acceptable ......I rest my case
BHAFC_Pandapops
Citation Needed
- Feb 16, 2011
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apparently it's legal in FIFA and FA terms.
Tricky Dicky
New member
I have now seen it many times, and personally still have no problem with it. He jumped in with both feet off the ground, was very late. Always a red in any other game - if that had been say Paul Scholes on someone, I bet almost everyone would say "red".
As I said elsewehere, the fact that it is being debated, indicates it was not clear-cut and therefore no an obvious mistake by the ref, therefore no chance of rescinding the card.
Sheebo
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- Jul 13, 2003
- 29,319
V difficult to tell re Barnes but he wasn't the one tackling as others semmed to think straight after the game. I think he jumped out of the challenge but deliberately left his leg in - it can be a red sometimes but on other occasions can be nothnig atall as he's avoiding a tackle. The Barnes decision can be debated long and hard but the fact is that the Burnley player went in with a tackle i've seen many reds for and then grabbed Barnes by the throat which is a red. The point is the burnley bloke should've gone. And i honestly believe 9 vs 10 we'd have won that match the way we played!