Are some people saying that the expectation of a player costing £2.5 million and on £12,000 a week should be identical to that of a player costing £60,000 and on £1,800 a week?
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Barn door Barnes
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Because I want to discuss the players and not my match attendance record?
Knowing how good your eyesight is, I am actually with Husty on this one.
FalmerforAll!**
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Who on earth are you to just assume that you've seen a player more than anyone else! And even if you have, how does that in any way make your opinion more valid about the situation at hand? Get off your high horse.
Yeah, I'd like to too. Let's start with: what makes you think that he's lightweight?
I like how everyone, while talking up CMS' 7/10 performance last night, are conveniently ignoring the moment towards the end where he - under little pressure - just ran the ball straight off the pitch for a goal kick. I want CMS to succeed, I really do, but sometimes he does stuff that looks Blue Square Premier at best.
Don't think its unreasonable to have an opinion, Mr. Burns pays his money to go and watch the team, if he thinks a player is sub-standard then its his right as a fan to voice his opinion. Last night Barnes didn't play that well. Over hitting passes and crosses, missed a sitter with his head and scuffed a few shots.
CMS looked lively, beating players winning corners, clearing off the line.
IMO last night showed why CMS cost us more than Barnes and why he is paid more.
Just an opinion mind hope people don't call everyone a bellend who has a different opinion to their own opinion.
CMS looked lively, beating players winning corners, clearing off the line.
IMO last night showed why CMS cost us more than Barnes and why he is paid more.
Just an opinion mind hope people don't call everyone a bellend who has a different opinion to their own opinion.
Have you seen the blue square premiership? Bit harsh to judge CMS on a moment when he was playing in a position he is obviously uncomfortable with.
I'm talking about really, really basic ball control here. Nothing to do with what position he was in on the pitch.
His "basic" ball control last night was on the whole very good last night, we looked far more of a threat when he was playing up front than when he switched to right wing for Vicente to play upfront.
I have seen Buckley who is probably our best winger over run the ball when trying to beat a full back. I have seen Gareth Bale over run the ball when trying to beat full backs.
Mr Burns
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You are focusing on one pass. Bridcutt passed the ball ten years to an opponent. KLL did the same. CMS missed controlled and ran the ball out. It happens. But if you want to focus on that, do you really want people to start picking out Barnes every misplaced pass, or mis control that sees the ball go into touch or dive looking for a free kick he doesn't get. Because if you want to start going over CMS and Barnes with a fine tooth comb, its not going to help your argument
Caveman2012
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- Jun 18, 2012
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I have no idear why Gus plays Gary dicksh*t we've not won a competitive game since he's been back. Also MR Barnes is not up to the job. But what I will say is CMS makes an excellent defender.
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Mr Burns
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And that has got to be one of Gus' most stupid substitutions, and it's got plenty of competition.
It's moves like this, that is starting to make me lose faith in the manager. He said afterwards he was 20%. Yet he places a player who could make something happen, up front on his own and we still hoof the ball up to him. I might begin to understand it if he put him up front with CMS, but in place off?!?!?!? Then put CMS out of position in a position where Vicente could have made something happen!!. I wonder sometimes if Poyet does these things, just because he can.
Mr Burns
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CMS in fairness was excellent defending last night. Makes me think if we do sign a striker, CMS will drop into Barnes role and the new player will play up front.
fratsomrover
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I too have been a Barnes critic in the past, but IMHO I think he has improved leaps and bounds and people are harsh to be so critical of him. Like CMS I think Barnes too would benefit from playing alongside a central target man. Last season both Ashley and CMS were a bit lightweight at this level of football, but I'm sure a big strong hold-up forward would assist them enormously. Barnes missed a great opportunity in the first half when put through by Greer. It was the best opportunity of the game and it was poor that he failed to get his shot away. Also his header from Noone's cross was poor for a centre forward and it is thee type of misses that brings him a bad press. The rest of his game was sound and his touch and vision has undoubtedly improved, but because he's Barnes the focus is always on his misses. But overall, I think he has improved and can make the grade at this level and I wish supporters would give him more encouragement than criticism. He's a young pro trying to make the best of playing in a somewhat unconventional line-up. Undoubtedly he would benefit from playing alongside a focal centre forward, but then so would CMS, but when or if we get one where will Buckley, Noone and Lua Lua fit in. I like our wide men, they all have the ability to beat opponents and get behind defences, but they are also let down by not having a big target man to meet their crosses.
The most pleasing thing from last night, was that we did get forward in numbers. It increased options and led to us having more attempts on goal than we saw last season. I thought it was a positive move and it led to an entertaining game which either team could have won. We missed our chances and they missed theirs. It could have easily ended up 3 v 3 or more, but I take positives from the number of chances we created and I'm sure its only a matter of time before we, Barnes and CMS find the back of the net
The most pleasing thing from last night, was that we did get forward in numbers. It increased options and led to us having more attempts on goal than we saw last season. I thought it was a positive move and it led to an entertaining game which either team could have won. We missed our chances and they missed theirs. It could have easily ended up 3 v 3 or more, but I take positives from the number of chances we created and I'm sure its only a matter of time before we, Barnes and CMS find the back of the net
samtheseagull
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Love it when someone says a player is shit, Just writing them off as "shit". I would love to be as shit at football as Barnes, getting paid decent wages for just being shit at football. Ashley was poor last night but he still gives the team the balance which Gus must like, Being able to change formation quickly with him in the team. Hes improved massively since he joined, and i for one can see why he getting in the team.
glasfryn
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how very dare you say that about St CMS
look lets all agree they are all shite and so is the manager and all his cronies
now takes tongue out of cheek
we got a point against a very good side
were we saying all this when we were fighting for the life of the Albion the passion from the Hereford game was immense and to be quite honest and may all those players forgive me,
then we were shite
lets all trust in Gus and Tony
and when things go a little wrong stop fecking moaning like a lot of little girls
when we are very nearly going out of the league then you have my permission to moan ........but thats the time I suspect you won't
though
I will just add this little gem for those who might not know the idea of a football game is to score more goals than the opposition
BARNES 20 GOALS ..TOP SCORER
and I don't care if he is fecking useless (he isn't ) he is doing the job he was put in there to do
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sir albion
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How can you blame cms because his price tag was over inflated?
Our style of play only suits defensive players in this division.