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Uncle Spielberg
Well-known member
Personally I think the BHAFC Hat pinnacle was reached for the 1983 FA Cup final and the very stylish " BHAFC Bowler Hat ", I wore it proudly that day but the torrential downpour made the blue dye run down my face
Storer68
New member
There's too much fretting going on here
Lord Bracknell
On fire
On one of the trips, we were accompanied throughout by an officer of the law. The fact that she NEARLY got thrown out of the ground for the notorious "paper aeroplane incident" indicates to me that she knows where the line is drawn and how to stay just the right side of it.
I shall leave Dave the Gaffer to judge whether her recent flight from the UK is evidence that she might indeed be a fugitive herself.
Barrel of Fun
Abort, retry, fail
Ask millionaire property developer Derek Chapman which project he’s most proud of and a cheeky smile will cross his face. “Well, the New England site by Brighton station is quite sexy, isn’t it? Lots of concrete. I’m a bit sad, really. I love concrete.” A self-described “concretehugger”, it’s no wonder Derek is so fond of the stuff – he’s made a fortune out of it. Making a success of things seems to be
a bit of a Chapman speciality. Though his education went no further than secondary school, Derek is clearly one step ahead of the game.
He set up construction fi rm Adenstar in 1985, and is now Managing Director of the
company, which he estimates makes £30 million a year. It’s quite hard to walk around Brighton and its surrounds without passing something that Adenstar has
built: Shoreham Power Station, the oncology unit at the Royal Sussex County Hospital and the controversial New England development (the “sexy station
site”) are all Adenstar contracts. The company receives consistent praise, and is often singled out both for its high standard of workmanship and its ability to complete projects within budget
and deadline. British Airways and
Barratt Homes have both written
glowing reports of Adenstar,
and the fi rm has received
numerous awards, including the
unglamorous but worthy 2003
British Parking Awards
The Marina development was
especially fun for Derek. In 2000,
the project won the record for the
biggest continuous concrete pour
in Brighton & Hove. The pour
took from 7.30am to 6pm, needed
111 deliveries and laid 660m3 of
concrete – pretty impressive for a
day’s work.
But asides from concrete, Derek’s
abiding passion is football. And
football, for a loyal Brighton boy,
means only one thing: Brighton &
Hove Albion.
“I love football and I’ve supported
the team since I was a kid. It’s
a tragedy what’s happened to
the team over the years. If I had
had enough money at the time, I
would have bought them. In fact,
I’d buy them now if I could.”
For most people, the idea of
buying their favourite football
team would be pie in the sky, but
for Derek, it’s a reality. He bought
a 13% stake in Brighton & Hove
Albion for £500 000 and is also a
Director of the club.
Derek is fi rmly in favour of a
permanent home for the team in
Falmer. He lives only one mile
away from the proposed site and
does not have much time for its
critics. Immediately after Deputy
Prime Minister John Prescott’s
decision in favour of the Falmer
development, Derek was quoted
in The Guardian unrepentantly
announcing that, “the objectors
can hug trees and wear green
wellies all they want. We’ve won
and they don’t like it.”
But, as any Albion fan will know,
winning hasn’t been quite that
simple. The opponents to the
Falmer site have continued
to fi ght against the stadium
even after Prescott’s decision.
Derek has always been very
personally involved in the battle,
and in 2003 he publicly burnt
his council tax bill as a protest
against what he saw as the
excessive amount of taxpayers’
money that Falmer Parish
Council were spending to fi ght
the development of the stadium.
Derek also got drawn into the
battle that raged after Prescott’s
decision. Days after the Falmer
go-ahead was given on 17
October 2005, the Deputy PM
attended a game at the Withdean
ground against his own home
team of Hull. After the match,
his decision to accept hospitality
from the club’s directors
prompted something of an
outcry. In the midst of all that
it emerged that Prescott had, in
2003 (while planning permission
was still being considered),
opened Adenstar’s new Portslade
offi ces. Norman Baker, the
Liberal Democrat MP for Lewes
and a major opponent of the
Falmer site, seized on this. He
described Prescott’s conduct as
“indefensible” and suggested that
he could no longer be considered
impartial, a claim that Prescott’s
offi ce contested.
Unsurprisingly, Derek is not a big
fan of environmentalists.
“I don’t mind green space,” he
explains. “I quite like seeing
a tree in a concrete tub. But
when I fl y out in my helicopter
and look down at all that green,
I just think, ‘we could build
on that’. That would show the
environmentalists. It’s just
selfi sh, isn’t it, all those people
with houses who don’t want
anymore built. It’s alright for
them. They’ve got somewhere to
live. They just want to keep the
prices high. I haven’t got time for
thinking like that. The football
team is vital for the spirit of this
town. It should be a priority in
people’s minds.”
Apart from the fight to save
the Seagulls, Derek likes
nothing better than a day out
flying his helicopter. “Actually,
the thing I’m proudest of is
learning to fly that helicopter.
For someone who only went to
secondary school, I think that’s
pretty good going. It took me
about a year to learn, and I
think the person who taught
me was more scared than I
was. It takes 45 minutes to get
to France, but the best thing
about it is I can watch the
football!”
Derek was born and bred in
Brighton, and despite years
working overseas in far-fl ung
locations such as Saudi Arabia,
Australia and the West Indies,
would never think of living
anywhere else. “It’s where you
come back to, isn’t it? I think
only failures leave. If you’ve
made a success of things, why
would you want to go?”
Despite his own success, he
has no ambitions for his two
children, Elizabeth and George,
to follow him into the trade. “I
don’t think it’s right, frankly,
for people to get a place in a
company just because they’ve
got the same last name as the
director,” he explains. And as
far as his personal ambitions
go, he confesses that he
wouldn’t mind leaving the
building business altogether
someday.
“It’s football I really love. Buying Brighton & Hove Albion? I wouldn’t mind doing that one day.”
It might be bad news for the environmentalists, but no doubt Brighton & Hove’s football fans would rejoice.
Apologies for the format. It is a cut and paste from adobe and I can't be arsed to sort it out. I don't know whether it adds anything to the debate, I am still working my way through the thread.
http://www.insightcity.co.uk/icn/pdf/icn_13-03-06.pdf
Page 11 of 29
a bit of a Chapman speciality. Though his education went no further than secondary school, Derek is clearly one step ahead of the game.
He set up construction fi rm Adenstar in 1985, and is now Managing Director of the
company, which he estimates makes £30 million a year. It’s quite hard to walk around Brighton and its surrounds without passing something that Adenstar has
built: Shoreham Power Station, the oncology unit at the Royal Sussex County Hospital and the controversial New England development (the “sexy station
site”) are all Adenstar contracts. The company receives consistent praise, and is often singled out both for its high standard of workmanship and its ability to complete projects within budget
and deadline. British Airways and
Barratt Homes have both written
glowing reports of Adenstar,
and the fi rm has received
numerous awards, including the
unglamorous but worthy 2003
British Parking Awards
The Marina development was
especially fun for Derek. In 2000,
the project won the record for the
biggest continuous concrete pour
in Brighton & Hove. The pour
took from 7.30am to 6pm, needed
111 deliveries and laid 660m3 of
concrete – pretty impressive for a
day’s work.
But asides from concrete, Derek’s
abiding passion is football. And
football, for a loyal Brighton boy,
means only one thing: Brighton &
Hove Albion.
“I love football and I’ve supported
the team since I was a kid. It’s
a tragedy what’s happened to
the team over the years. If I had
had enough money at the time, I
would have bought them. In fact,
I’d buy them now if I could.”
For most people, the idea of
buying their favourite football
team would be pie in the sky, but
for Derek, it’s a reality. He bought
a 13% stake in Brighton & Hove
Albion for £500 000 and is also a
Director of the club.
Derek is fi rmly in favour of a
permanent home for the team in
Falmer. He lives only one mile
away from the proposed site and
does not have much time for its
critics. Immediately after Deputy
Prime Minister John Prescott’s
decision in favour of the Falmer
development, Derek was quoted
in The Guardian unrepentantly
announcing that, “the objectors
can hug trees and wear green
wellies all they want. We’ve won
and they don’t like it.”
But, as any Albion fan will know,
winning hasn’t been quite that
simple. The opponents to the
Falmer site have continued
to fi ght against the stadium
even after Prescott’s decision.
Derek has always been very
personally involved in the battle,
and in 2003 he publicly burnt
his council tax bill as a protest
against what he saw as the
excessive amount of taxpayers’
money that Falmer Parish
Council were spending to fi ght
the development of the stadium.
Derek also got drawn into the
battle that raged after Prescott’s
decision. Days after the Falmer
go-ahead was given on 17
October 2005, the Deputy PM
attended a game at the Withdean
ground against his own home
team of Hull. After the match,
his decision to accept hospitality
from the club’s directors
prompted something of an
outcry. In the midst of all that
it emerged that Prescott had, in
2003 (while planning permission
was still being considered),
opened Adenstar’s new Portslade
offi ces. Norman Baker, the
Liberal Democrat MP for Lewes
and a major opponent of the
Falmer site, seized on this. He
described Prescott’s conduct as
“indefensible” and suggested that
he could no longer be considered
impartial, a claim that Prescott’s
offi ce contested.
Unsurprisingly, Derek is not a big
fan of environmentalists.
“I don’t mind green space,” he
explains. “I quite like seeing
a tree in a concrete tub. But
when I fl y out in my helicopter
and look down at all that green,
I just think, ‘we could build
on that’. That would show the
environmentalists. It’s just
selfi sh, isn’t it, all those people
with houses who don’t want
anymore built. It’s alright for
them. They’ve got somewhere to
live. They just want to keep the
prices high. I haven’t got time for
thinking like that. The football
team is vital for the spirit of this
town. It should be a priority in
people’s minds.”
Apart from the fight to save
the Seagulls, Derek likes
nothing better than a day out
flying his helicopter. “Actually,
the thing I’m proudest of is
learning to fly that helicopter.
For someone who only went to
secondary school, I think that’s
pretty good going. It took me
about a year to learn, and I
think the person who taught
me was more scared than I
was. It takes 45 minutes to get
to France, but the best thing
about it is I can watch the
football!”
Derek was born and bred in
Brighton, and despite years
working overseas in far-fl ung
locations such as Saudi Arabia,
Australia and the West Indies,
would never think of living
anywhere else. “It’s where you
come back to, isn’t it? I think
only failures leave. If you’ve
made a success of things, why
would you want to go?”
Despite his own success, he
has no ambitions for his two
children, Elizabeth and George,
to follow him into the trade. “I
don’t think it’s right, frankly,
for people to get a place in a
company just because they’ve
got the same last name as the
director,” he explains. And as
far as his personal ambitions
go, he confesses that he
wouldn’t mind leaving the
building business altogether
someday.
“It’s football I really love. Buying Brighton & Hove Albion? I wouldn’t mind doing that one day.”
It might be bad news for the environmentalists, but no doubt Brighton & Hove’s football fans would rejoice.
Apologies for the format. It is a cut and paste from adobe and I can't be arsed to sort it out. I don't know whether it adds anything to the debate, I am still working my way through the thread.
http://www.insightcity.co.uk/icn/pdf/icn_13-03-06.pdf
Page 11 of 29
ROSM
Well-known member
it depends how they 'invest' the money. If it is shares - the price is directly governed by the success therefore many people who have confidence in the way they run businesses will want a say commensurate to the amount invested.
If it is loans, then usually these have terms to them and the return is not so governed by the success of the business therefore having power is not essential.
My advice is let the person best able to run the business, run it. Dont assume money equals knowledge and if wanting a say, use share investment rather than loan capital
He is a gob-shite that's what.
If you want me to be more specific: whenever I have been exposed to his comments or thoughts he has never come across as very sophisticated or diplomatic. I would not want him at the helms of the Albion.