Andy Gray and Richard Keys....

[Lord Bamber]

Imagine the two Alans - Brazil and Partridge - presenting MNF in tandem. That would be TV Gold, nay "Liquid football". Coming to you live, from Carrow Road...

In the midst of a serious thread I thank the lord for some humour....

 

[spring hall convert]

If they aren't sacked it proves Sexism is still acceptable in today's society.

They'll fall on their swords won't they. Terminally embarassing with Sky especially as they are launching Sky Atlantic to appeal to the more discerning demographic.

Murdoch's got bigger fishes to fry at the moment anyway.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_of_the_World_phone_hacking_affair

 

[Ninja Elephant]

So, they should be sacked for one daft conversation, which they were having in private, after how many years service? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. It's incredible to suggest they should lose their jobs over this. It's nothing, they've made outdated remarks and been recorded doing it, big woop. Get over it, it's not a massive disaster.

 

[El Presidente]

I just think there are an awful lot of hypocrites on this thread who are having a real go at Gray and Keys for doing what a large majority of men do when talking to other men. I.e. Take the piss out of women.

They weren't taking the piss, they were saying that women are not fit to do the job, which is completely different.

If I said professionally that female students were inferior to males because they have smaller brains or similar drivel I would (a) lose all professional respect and status, and (b) probably lose my job, and rightly so.

 

[Giraffe]

So, they should be sacked for one daft conversation, which they were having in private, after how many years service? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. It's incredible to suggest they should lose their jobs over this. It's nothing, they've made outdated remarks and been recorded doing it, big woop. Get over it, it's not a massive disaster.

Exactly.

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

They weren't taking the piss, they were saying that women are not fit to do the job, which is completely different.

If I said professionally that female students were inferior to males because they have smaller brains or similar drivel I would (a) lose all professional respect and status, and (b) probably lose my job, and rightly so.

It's good to see at least one mod not soft-pedalling the behaviour of Gray and Keys

 

[Goldstone Rapper]

So, they should be sacked for one daft conversation, which they were having in private, after how many years service? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. It's incredible to suggest they should lose their jobs over this. It's nothing, they've made outdated remarks and been recorded doing it, big woop. Get over it, it's not a massive disaster.

Were you also an apologist for Ron Atkinson when he called Marcel Dessailly a lazy n*****?

 

[Lord Bamber]

If it was Micky Quinn or Paul Merson, two other sky sport pundits, who had made these comments, they would have been sacked immediately.

As it is Keys & Gray, two powerhouses of sky sports, they wont.

Just some more inequality to add to the debate.

 

[tottenhamseagull]

Has anyone else seen the footage with Gray and the touchline reporter before the Wolves - Liverpool game? Still going on about the fact a woman is running the line! How can he carry on in his position? He can't. Same with Keys. Both have to go.

 

[Scoffers]

Putting aside the fact I hate Key's presenting and don't care much for AG's tactical reviews, I'd sack them both. They have been gorging at the Sky Pie since 1992 and should show more respect. f*** 'em I say.

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

They weren't taking the piss, they were saying that women are not fit to do the job, which is completely different.

If I said professionally that female students were inferior to males because they have smaller brains or similar drivel I would (a) lose all professional respect and status, and (b) probably lose my job, and rightly so.

correct. these 'private conversations' show that he holds sexist views, which he therefore holds (whether he airs them or not) when he is doing his job. he is therefore unsuitable.

apart from this, he's also a shit pundit and a bit of an all-round cock.

 

[ROSM]

So, they should be sacked for one daft conversation, which they were having in private, after how many years service? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. It's incredible to suggest they should lose their jobs over this. It's nothing, they've made outdated remarks and been recorded doing it, big woop. Get over it, it's not a massive disaster.

But because just this private conversation has come out, it doesn't mean that this isn't their normal behaviour. There is now foortage of Gray saying similar things in a touchline interview. Somebody will have leaked this and whilst we can speculate why they've done that, the question will be how entrenched are these views and if there is previous?

Fundamentally Sky are trying to change their demographic and this wont have helped that cause one bit. Kelly Dalglish, formerly of Sky, has commented on this herself and hasn't joined the 'it's all a one off incident' cause.

 

[Tesco in Disguise]

There is now foortage of Gray saying similar things in a touchline interview. Somebody will have leaked this and whilst we can speculate why they've done that, the question will be how entrenched are these views and if there is previous?

that clip is cringeworthy. him, going "i wouldn't, i wouldn't". who the f*** would with you you big baldy ballsack?

 

[sydney]

can't see them wiggling out of it really , just shows how daft some of these so called experts are. gray can f*** off notb and commentate on sheep dog trials or haggis eating contests..!!

 

[Westdene Seagull]

So, they should be sacked for one daft conversation, which they were having in private, after how many years service? I'm sorry, I don't buy that. It's incredible to suggest they should lose their jobs over this. It's nothing, they've made outdated remarks and been recorded doing it, big woop. Get over it, it's not a massive disaster.

As El Pres has mentioned, in many businesses that type of blatant sexism is a sackable offence - more so if it tarnishes the company's image. Welcome to the real world Keys and Gray !!!!

 

[Lady Whistledown]

That second clip is entertaining, when he says "no, I wouldn't, I definitely wouldn't", in relation to Sian Massey.

What, and you think she would with you, you ugly fat TOOL?

 

[User removed 4]

I think Andy Gray and Richard Keys should be sacked after their ignorant, sexist comments on TV. Sky Sports should set an example and give their jobs to female presenters.
Preferably ones with really big tits.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I wouldn't

 

[Lady Whistledown]

If I was at work and I got caught making remarks of this nature about, for example, black, or Asian, or disabled or gay people, whether it was intended to be a private conversation or not, I would end up in a massive amount of trouble over it. No question.

 

[mejonaNO12 aka riskit]

I think Andy Gray and Richard Keys should be sacked after their ignorant, sexist comments on TV. Sky Sports should set an example and give their jobs to female presenters.
Preferably ones with really big tits.

Millie clode and Natalie Sawyer please.

With Charlotte Jackson on analysis.