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[Drinking] 10PM pub closing. what will people do ?

what will people do ?

  • Drink less

    Votes: 31 26.7%
  • go out earlier

    Votes: 85 73.3%

  • Total voters
    116


WilburySeagull

New member
Sep 2, 2017
495
Hove
Its not the closing at 10pm thats the main issue here, its that table service will be a law. This is going to cause major issues for many pubs, it also means that every time you get a drink a waiter will be lingering around you for longer than if you went up to the bar.

But the waiter should be masked (if inside) and you wont be up close to others at the bar.
 






Lever

Well-known member
Feb 6, 2019
5,432
Are entitled toffs allowed to carry on killing grouse after 10:00pm does anyone know?
 


Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
24,825
Sussex by the Sea
Are entitled toffs allowed to carry on killing grouse after 10:00pm does anyone know?

Grouse-by-Floodlight, sounds like a book.

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GloryDays

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2011
1,713
Leyton, E10.
It should (but won't) act as a timely reminder to people to go out less often, stay at home as much as possible and find other ways to entertain themselves (and get drunk). What is concerning is how the pubs are still open at all. IMO the single biggest action we can take to control covid is to shut pubs. You can keep schools open, restaurants serving, even offices...but as soon as we permit drinking culture...people being too loose, the slipping of hygiene standards etc, we are welcoming CoVid back in to our lives. I love the pub, atmos, convo, banter...but it's chalk and cheese when social distancing comes in to the equation. Not conducive to each other. Like with VAR taking the emotion out of football, ordering my pint on an app and having it brought to me by someone dressed as a dental assistant makes me think I can live without. It's an unnecessary gateway to covid, unlike places of learning and worship, offices and even restaurants like I say.

Just scanning up the page and seeing a bit of debate about the track and trace system my take is this. Britain, like the US, is so advanced and extraordinary in it's 'cultural development' (aka individualist lifestyles) that the concept of socialism is pure fiction. And so Track and Trace is a mere gesture that operates on myth and fable. Plus there is so much cynicism / hatred / distrust in the gov atm how would you react if you got a text out the blue telling you to stay in for 2 weeks?

I appreciate the virus is prevalent in many areas of society but the general lifestyle of the pubbing enthusiast is a playground for Covid. No offence anyone, I love pubs, but if we brought in prohibition we'd probably see the back of covid in 6-8 weeks. All IMHO.
 








marcos3263

Well-known member
Oct 29, 2009
944
Fishersgate and Proud
I still want to see "league tables" how many people a day are dying from cancer, drinking, obesity etc. when we hear numbers of people dying we have no context.

A quick google search says:

In 2019, there were 496,354 deaths registered in England, a decrease of 9,505 deaths compared with 2018 and the lowest number registered since 2016.

so thats 1359.87 a day on average.

So the numbers of Covid deaths are very low especially as they are also often in tangent to underlying issues.

This is why I am confused that we haven't taken as drastic measures on other killers - ie limit alcohol consumption (maybe by making it very expensive or no multipacks, offers etc) ban smoking, ban junk food, speed limiters on vehicles, whatever to stop so many people dying every single day.

However if people are dying because they are old or have underlying issues is that not also life? Call me evil but we all cant live forever.

Humans on the whole are greedy selfish individuals and you wont force someone to put themselves out for the good of others - thats why we over consume while the forests burn and the icecaps melt.

Is this a rant? getting that way - messy disjointed argument of a madman - I might run for office.....
 






Hamilton

Well-known member
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Jul 7, 2003
12,875
Brighton
1. You might want to refresh yourself on the difference between strategy and tactics.

2. I can't retract something I didn't say. You dismissed the statistics I quoted that clearly illustrate the worsening situation of the Covid-19 epidemic in this country as "just data". I countered that 40,000 deaths could be considered "just data". At no point did I suggest you thought that. It seems you draw the line somewhere between escalating hospitalisations of very sick people - "just data" and deaths - "bad stuff". Got it. Understood.

1. No I am not. I'm perfectly aware of the difference between strategy and tactics.
2. I stated that the data was just data, and without a presenting long term strategy it was pointless just presenting the data alone. The question is what course the government is going to take. We are getting a bit of a picture today but it is still unclear.

What you're 'drawing the line' comment means, I have no idea. I'm simply saying that data and action are two very different things.
 
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Hamilton

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Jul 7, 2003
12,875
Brighton
No need to revert to name calling. It weakens your debating position.

Please see my updated response. I guess I was writing that whilst you were name calling.

If world class tracking systems were simple to introduce I am sure that the many counties with citizens moaning about what ever their governing bodies do would have them in place. It’s all about a willingness to comply (or fear not to). Do you see full compliance down in Shoreham?

I would love you to suggest that we introduce those stringent isolation methods you refer to over here.

Shoreham? What has Shoreham got to do with anything?

You asked for some countries and reasons. I gave them to you and have again stated clearly... IT IS NOT UP TO ME TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY, BUT I AM ALLOWED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS NOT ONE.
 




Saltydog

New member
Aug 29, 2011
1,406
Ocean Wave
Shoreham? What has Shoreham got to do with anything?

You asked for some countries and reasons. I gave them to you and have again stated clearly... IT IS NOT UP TO ME TO COME UP WITH A STRATEGY, BUT I AM ALLOWED TO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS NOT ONE.

Apologies. I mixed you up with a poster from Shoreham who had more interesting things to say.

Anyhow back on track.

It’s simple or criticise from the sidelines without the pressure of thousands of screaming people - the clever part is coming up with better ideas. We are encouraged to contribute ideas where I work even though it’s not my job.
 


Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,875
Brighton
Apologies. I mixed you up with a poster from Shoreham who had more interesting things to say.

Anyhow back on track.

It’s simple or criticise from the sidelines without the pressure of thousands of screaming people - the clever part is coming up with better ideas. We are encouraged to contribute ideas where I work even though it’s not my job.

Yawn!

You really are not worth anymore typing.

Trott on son.
 


Guinness Boy

Tofu eating wokerati
Helpful Moderator
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Jul 23, 2003
36,572
Up and Coming Sunny Portslade
Apologies. I mixed you up with a poster from Shoreham who had more interesting things to say.

Anyhow back on track.

It’s simple or criticise from the sidelines without the pressure of thousands of screaming people - the clever part is coming up with better ideas. We are encouraged to contribute ideas where I work even though it’s not my job.

Thanks, but I'd probably prefer Johnson coming up with a "strategy" to you.
 








Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,875
Brighton
Don't apply for a job with the Shoreham Tourist Board.

I do like the new bridge. And, the pedestrian area around the Church is lovely.

Will they let me through without tar and feathering me now?
 


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