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erm... because this debate has NOTHING to do with the NSK - we're talking about the number of numpties who appear at local away fixtures, who spend 90 mins singing silly songs about the opposition fans/town/stewards etc etc rather than backing the team. and how this then affects the general...

fair enough. can't argue with that as you obviously know your onions when it comes to chelsea.

fair enough. can't argue with that as you obviously know your onions when it comes to chelsea.

i think what i'm trying to say is... you don't need to be on a low income or live in social housing to be a passionate knowledgeable football fan. you didn't back in the day, and you don't know. and i think i'll bow out at this point.

mate that's just nonsense. are you suggested that Chelsea, a club in one of the wealthiest parts of london, have never attracted fans from across the wealth divide... that throughout the 60s and 70s chelsea fans were all 'local working class' and so therefore got behind the team without making...

why would the lack of people on low incomes attending football mean that loads of people now sing 'we fill your stadium' at millwall on a tuesday night? are you suggesting that somehow people on low incomes wouldn't dream of singing that, but yet people on middle and high incomes think it's...

mate you sound like a character from the league of gentlemen with your wooly views on 'local football for local people'. if you trying to say that people on low incomes have been priced out of football then we are in agreement. however that has nothing to do with modern football culture... are...

unlikely. but feel free to give it a go

i for one am not directing my comments towards the NSK - the NSK are the solution to this problem in my book. please please keep doing what your doing NSK and hopefully your songs will prevail over the numpty club's

what complete and utter nonsense this is. what relevance has has social housing and suburbia got to this debate? none

no mate, i'm not for a second suggesting the whole crowd was singing these songs for 90 mins... in many ways that's my point. good away support, in my book anyway (and we used to do this) is loudly supporting the team to the absolute maximum for 90 mins, not moaning when somebody makes a...

eh? i mentioned two specific songs in my original posts - we filled your stadium and we pay your benefits. both favourites of the numpty club

yeah but it's not really supporting the team is it. spending 90 mins trying to start a song about a fat bloke/slapper/steward in the adjacent stand isn't really going to help the team much.

another tedious comment about the ultras. ffs at least try and understand what they're about even if you don't like the concept.

at the beginning perhaps?

good post. was thinking the same last night. our away support is really poor these days, not particularly loud, spending half the time trying to start 'hilarious' chants about the opposition. those 'we pay your benefits' and 'we filled your stadium' songs are neither big, clever, or funny. we...

eh? which people said that to you? I had two pints after the leeds game, waited about 10 mins at the station, jumped on train, and was back in brighton by about 10.25 (having enjoyed a couple of beers by then). your mates who 'only just made it back by 11.30'... did they walk back and get lost...

Dunce?

Daniel Kitson. Completely untouchable, a complete and utter genius. Rarely does straight stand-up these days mind. Stewart Lee Eddie Izzard Special mention for our very own Comedy Steve, who is a superb compere and also a brilliant stand-up in my book.

Oh dear Southern Sid. Some people have way too much time on their hands...