Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Two years after the war finished. Many of them were imprisoned during it.The Quakers did, and got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1947/ceremony-speech/
Two years after the war finished. Many of them were imprisoned during it.The Quakers did, and got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1947/ceremony-speech/
It was never the objective of the IRA to wipe out the protestants or the English and there in lies the major difference and that is pretty much true of the groups you mention above. In the case of the IRA it was clear that the conflict was going nowhere, support was waning (especially as economic conditions improved) and rational people (yes i did say that) decided that peace might be a better option .You can't be sure that it will achieve nothing useful. There are examples in history of terrorist organisations renouncing violence and embracing peaceful, political means, and examples of terrorist organisations pretty much ceasing to exist. The IRA as the former and the Tamil Tigers as the latter. Also, Frelimo, Swapo, Sandanista etc. etc.
Yes, I alo have a recollection that the Chief Nurse was a Quaker and camapigned for civilian relief in Germany.Two years after the war finished. Many of them were imprisoned during it.
Forgive me if I have this wrong.I cannot understand how firing hundreds of rockets into Israel daily, indiscriminately hitting civilian infrastructure, can be a preventative measure. Have I misunderstood your point?
Then they cocked it up. Two children dead and many others injured. Unless you are happy to accept another couple of dead children as "collateral damage" to go along with the thousands already killed, maimed, injured and displaced by the extreme rightwing government of the State of Israel?Yes, of course, as we've seen in South Africa, Angola, Mozambique, Nicaragua etc., but, imo, this was most definitely not a terrorist attack. It was a targeted operation to disrupt and immobilise Hezbollah's organisational structure. It is not comparable to the rockets Hezbollah fires indiscriminately into Israel every day.
Where have 1000s of civilians been injured in this attack? What we know about it is that nearly 3000 pagers distributed and used by Hezbollah for their organisational communications have been blown up, with around 2,800 total casualties.Do you think it would be acceptable for IDF to be targeted the same way with 1000s of civilians injured and children killed in Tel Aviv?
How many civilian deaths in Gaza?No one is celebrating a child’s death
Hezbollah has fired 8000 rockets into Israel in the last year including one that killed many children playing football (where were your tears then) so they are at war. This war has the lowest rate of civilian deaths of any modern war.
What on earth do you think we did to the Germans in ww2? Sang them lullabies?if Hezbollah attacks a barracks or police station in Israel, is that ok then and not terrorism, because its targetted?
maybe i'm the odd one, in my eyes, deliberatly maiming targets just isn't how you go about immobilising an adversary.
D'you think Hitler would've surrendered to the Quakers?The Quakers did, and got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1947/ceremony-speech/
I didn't know that but weren't the Quakers also conscientious objectors so clearly stood up against any violence /war rather than just bombing of civilians.The Quakers did, and got the Nobel Peace Prize for it. https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/1947/ceremony-speech/
you have not answered my previous question, do you think 430000 dead, thousands maimed and displaced is an acceptable response to the original atrocity by Hamas ?Where have 1000s of civilians been injured in this attack? What we know about it is that nearly 3000 pagers distributed and used by Hezbollah for their organisational communications have been blown up, with around 2,800 total casualties.
while following some rules of war accepted at the time, we did a lot of things we dont find acceptable today. maybe at least try to address the question without resorting to whataboutery.What on earth do you think we did to the Germans in ww2? Sang them lullabies?
My error, the amount of civilian injuries is unknown, although we do know for certain two children were killed.Where have 1000s of civilians been injured in this attack? What we know about it is that nearly 3000 pagers distributed and used by Hezbollah for their organisational communications have been blown up, with around 2,800 total casualties.
Presumably because they were in the immediate vicinity of the Hezbollah operatives who were in possession of the pagers.Amazing, why are two children dead then ?
Which killed children. Defend it as much as you want. It’s terrorism, nothing less.It was a precisely targeted attack on the Hezbolla organisational structure, designed to disrupt and immobilise it.
that is ok then, phew.....Presumably because they were in the immediate vicinity of the Hezbollah operatives who were in possession of the pagers.
12 deaths, not thousands.The one bit of solace I get from this thread is that apart from the two nutters who apparently are fine with a bit of light genocide, the overwhelming opinion of sensible Brits seems to be disgust at the Israeli regime for the thousands of deaths they are causing.