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[Albion] De Zerbi was NOT “sacked”



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Han Solo

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Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:
Ok mate, he was not a good manager and GPot was. That's all you ever want to hear, so be it.

Definitely not the case that they are both good managers in different ways, GPot good for providing a very platform with young players, RDZ good for taking it to the next level with exillerating football and a fantastic European group stage.

Graham struggled without goalscorers up front and squad depth. RDZ without wingers or fullbacks lost to injury and a midfield not adequately replaced.

I must not keep biting to this obsession with Potter being the messiah and De Zerbi the devil. But it's plainly absolute horseshit.
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RDZ will always be a hero to those who love old time British leadership (punishment, through people under the bus, blame game) and/or love to take a dig at the club at any chance possible. They got their Messiah, someone who shared their views that the Tony, PB and the club are actually a little bit shit (not ambitious enough and doing a lot of blunders). They identified with him, sharing his delusion of "I know better than the people running the club".

That's fine, unlike his management, which was shite enough for even the patient and understanding Bloom to pull the trigger.

Its a big loss for you and others who can't go two days without moaning about Paul Barber or Tony Bloom - you lost an ally - but its a good development for anyone believing the club knows what its doing.
 
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Han Solo said:
RDZ will always be a hero to those who love old time British leadership (punishment, through people under the bus, blame game) and/or love to take a dig at the club at any chance possible. They got their Messiah, someone who shared their views that the Tony, PB and the club are actually a little bit shit (not ambitious enough and doing a lot of blunders). They identified with him, sharing his delusion of "I know better than the people running the club".

That's fine, unlike his management, which was shite enough for even the patient and understanding Bloom to pull the trigger.

Its a big loss for you and others who can't go two days without moaning about Paul Barber or Tony Bloom - you lost an ally - but its a good development for anyone believing the club knows what its doing.
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RDZ was a dick gobbing off after Rome. He was quite right in what he said, lack of investment in January was a massive cock up and we're making up for it now, we're not going to run out of wingers this season!!!. But that doesn't mean he should be blaming the board in public when he also had a mare that night. I don't see why that would make him more popular? British leadership? You've been slagging the bloke off for months because his English wasn't very good for Christ sake, most of us can't speak more than one language.


But you've cracked again. RDZ's football was incredibly entertaining until we ran out of the wingers to play it. nothing to do with him being an ally because he had a pop at the blokes running the club and controlling budgets. Mental
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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keaton said:
Not anymore
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You're quite correct. Gah!

Fingers crossed some enterprising UK broadcaster steps into the breach at the last moment 🤞

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Easy 10

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Han Solo said:
RDZ will always be a hero to those who love old time British leadership (punishment, through people under the bus, blame game) and/or love to take a dig at the club at any chance possible. They got their Messiah, someone who shared their views that the Tony, PB and the club are actually a little bit shit (not ambitious enough and doing a lot of blunders). They identified with him, sharing his delusion of "I know better than the people running the club".

That's fine, unlike his management, which was shite enough for even the patient and understanding Bloom to pull the trigger.

Its a big loss for you and others who can't go two days without moaning about Paul Barber or Tony Bloom - you lost an ally - but its a good development for anyone believing the club knows what its doing.
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I've read some bollocks in my time on here, but that just might be the biggest pile of unmitigated CACK ever to grace these pages.
Are you on a wind-up ? Do you actually believe what you just posted ?

Christ.
 






ManOfSussex

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Anyone who actually was there at The Amex that day we beat Potter's Chelsea 4-1 and sang 'Potter! What's the score!' will always have a soft spot for RDZ despite what transpired. I still say that win at Arsenal was the greatest in Albion's history too, but maybe Pedro v Marseille was. The most 'important and influential' manager Pascal Gross played under as well. Great memories and great times but I think we've all moved on now and can say 'grazie e arrivederci Roberto.'
 


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Flounce said:
So shit we ended up 6th and then top of of our Euro group. Injuries kicked in, RDZ went rogue after he was embarrassed by his mate in Roma and the rest is history.

You are better than this :rolleyes:

RDZ gave us the most exhilarating run in Albion history, GP took the 30 pieces of silver and will always be remembered by Albion fans as a Judas :shrug:

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Graham Potter will always be remembered by a particular sort of very precious Albion fans as a Judas, that is correct and goes for most individuals who were good enough to get picked up by better clubs.

RDZ didn't give anything. :shrug : He rode on what TB, PB, the recruitment team and CH/GP had built and eventually turned it into a mess. Things were really bad a LONG time before the Roma game, even if people were living in a delusion that the team was winning/and or playing well, none of which were the case.

He did a decent job in the short term to avoid the confusion and issues that could have arised with the old staff leaving.

In hindsight he should have been sacked in May that same year, when he said Caicedo should play in a better club. It wasn't his call to judge when Caicedo should be sold or if Brighton is a good club or not. All the signals of his massive ego and belief that he was some sort of all-knowing dictator where there to be seen from very early days, but I suppose its difficult to sack a manager who happens to be around when the team reaches top 6.
 




One Teddy Maybank

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Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:
So shit that Pascal Gross said he was the most influential manager he worked with, successfully navigating our way to Europa League knockouts at the first time of asking via a topped group, and still finishing comfortably mid table in the Prem despite a shitshow of injuries to a thin squad.

Yeah, real shit. Stop rewriting history because you can't hack the legacy left by Gormless Graham (still out of a job, btw)


Bloke was too opinionated and outspoken for us, I think. And clearly struggled to motivate the squad and himself in the second half of the season when injuries had taken its toll and he needed to find yet another plan. But let's not pretend he just picked up Potter's job and turned it to shit in 18 months.

God, I can't believe I'm still biting to this shit.
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Don’t, just a pain in the arse on this subject and going back to @Bozza and ‘How to improve NSC’……….

Anyone who cannot see that Potter did a great job, and then RdZ improved on it, is not worth the effort……

RdZ did let himself down, but nobody can deny our European adventure…..
 


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Easy 10 said:
I've read some bollocks in my time on here, but that just might be the biggest pile of unmitigated CACK ever to grace these pages.
Are you on a wind-up ? Do you actually believe what you just posted ?

Christ.
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Yes. The same people who keep going on about the greatness of RDZ are, with some exceptions, the same ones moaning for years about Tony Bloom not knowing what he does. They found their hero/themselves (same thing to that type of personality) when RDZ came.

It is what it is. I hope they had fun because we're unlikely to sign another manager spending every press conference and interview trashtalking the club, its ways and its owner.
 


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One Teddy Maybank said:
Don’t, just a pain in the arse on this subject and going back to @Bozza and ‘How to improve NSC’……….

Anyone who cannot see that Potter did a great job, and then RdZ improved on it, is not worth the effort……

RdZ did let himself down, but nobody can deny our European adventure…..
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:lol:

"Daddy, someone has a different opinion than me - remove him so NSC 'improves'".
 




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Rightly TB will always be beyond criticism about anything. Whilst we are all guessing for reasons for RDZ departure would think he would not be happy to employ a manager who disagreed with his views. However will still say RDZ leaving was a great loss. He will go down as a club great and unbelievable the belief he gave the team and players and comment from Gross sums it up. As far as style of play is concerned Hughtons quote on tv during an interview when asked about RDZ. Very brave. sums that. His style of play was often breathtaking like of which we may never see again.
 


Iggle Piggle

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Han Solo said:
Yes. The same people who keep going on about the greatness of RDZ are, with some exceptions, the same ones moaning for years about Tony Bloom not knowing what he does. They found their hero/themselves (same thing to that type of personality) when RDZ came.

It is what it is. I hope they had fun because we're unlikely to sign another manager spending every press conference and interview trashtalking the club, its ways and its owner.
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You will never understand the atmosphere of both Marseille games, what it was like to see Pascal put someone in his arse and fire us 2-0 up at Man U, playing Chelsea off the pitch giving Potter PTSD or the excitement of travelling to those European games. I'll never understand how he turned up so quick at the away end of Forest. For those memories, RDZ will always have credit.

The last few months were dog shit and RDZ was a prick. It was time for him to go.

Your diagnosis of "British leadership" is the biggest load of shit I've ever read on here. And I've read a lot.of shit on here.
 


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Iggle Piggle said:
You will never understand the atmosphere of both Marseille games, what it was like to see Pascal put someone in his arse and fire us 2-0 up at Man U, playing Chelsea off the pitch giving Potter PTSD or the excitement of travelling to those European games. I'll never understand how he turned up so quick at the away end of Forest. For those memories, RDZ will always have credit.

The last few months were dog shit and RDZ was a prick. It was time for him to go.

Your diagnosis of "British leadership" is the biggest load of shit I've ever read on here. And I've read a lot.of shit on here.
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Nope, don't need to understand the atmosphere of anything or anywhere to make a judgement on the ability of a manager.

Should have stayed away from the "diagnos", I know its a sensitive subject. Maybe we can go back and discuss it once some English manager wins a title somewhere. If any of us are alive then.
 




Iggle Piggle

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Han Solo said:
Nope, don't need to understand the atmosphere of anything or anywhere to make a judgement on the ability of a manager.

Should have stayed away from the "diagnos", I know its a sensitive subject. Maybe we can go back and discuss it once some English manager wins a title somewhere. If any of us are alive then.
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I've absolutely no idea what point you are trying to make in this or the previous post.

Enjoy your spliff.
 


B-right-on

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Han Solo said:
Graham Potter will always be remembered by The Majority Albion fans as a Judas, that is correct
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Corrected for you :thumbsup:

I do find it absolutely ridiculous that some bloke in the arse end of the frozen wastes of Sweden, living off dope and pizza, can profess to be an expert on BHAFC, it's managers, owners and fans, despite never ever being to a game or even to the country.

And then argues with many fans on the forum that have been attending games since before he was born, in attempt to shove his warped opinion down their throats.

It's like trying to have a conversation with my 2 year old grandson about the reason why Man City are charged with 115 counts of PSR violations - a pointless task because he won't understand.
 


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B-right-on said:
Corrected for you :thumbsup:

I do find it absolutely ridiculous that some bloke in the arse end of the frozen wastes of Sweden, living off dope and pizza, can profess to be an expert on BHAFC, it's managers, owners and fans, despite never ever being to a game or even to the country.

And then argues with many fans on the forum that have been attending games since before he was born, in attempt to shove his warped opinion down their throats.

It's like trying to have a conversation with my 2 year old grandson about the reason why Man City are charged with 115 counts of PSR violations - a pointless task because he won't understand.
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I came to the dope and pizza, which is where I can safely say a poster has nothing to say but "I don't like you and your opinions".

Try again if you want to discuss something.
 






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Pliny the Gull said:
Got goals and performances out of players and team, in a small window, that GP would have taken 3 seasons to maybe achieve.
I enjoyed the ride TBH.
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Thats the advantage of taking over one of the best six squads in the league compared to taking over one of the worst three: it goes faster to reach success.
Not exactly rocket science.
 


jcdenton08

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Han Solo said:
I came to the dope and pizza, which is where I can safely say a poster has nothing to say but "I don't like you and your opinions".

Try again if you want to discuss something.
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Yeah, but he’s not wrong is he? It’s not like you’ve been defamed because you’ve made it clear several times in the past you drink a lot of alcohol and smoke a lot of weed, often when posting on here, and often in the early hours. The truth is an absolute defence against defamation.

You aren’t being some bastion of free speech and firebrand rebel that you see in your mind’s eye, you’re just being a bit of a troll.

An example of this is randomly - and apropos of nothing - bringing up your tangent about English managers (?) out of absolutely nowhere, then an attempt to get a reaction by saying “maybe we can go back and discuss it once some English manager wins a title somewhere. If any of us are alive then.”.

Now, when you typed this, I’m sure it made sense in your mind because of your internal monologue which we weren’t privy to, and very possibly because of your altered state of mind due use of substance(s).

To a sober mind, you are just being caustic and disingenuous in that very specific way you do, around this time of night, when you come out with this stuff.
 


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