You really need astonishing amount of delusion to think Webster was better under RDZ than under Potter... regardless of what you think of the managers and Webster in general.
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I reckon Webbo may be rather pleased to see the back of RDZ. If he hadn’t gone, I reckon Webbo might have.
- Jul 6, 2011
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Why is anyone worrying about the squad size when we have over 6 weeks of the transfer window still to go? Weird thing to focus on.
Farehamseagull
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You're not wrong.
He's been putting in extra training this summer, was back a long time before all of the other players. He's determined to come back strongly.
Super Steve Earle
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I'm not going to waste time reminding you of Webster's shortcomings prior to RDZ. Well actually I am. You are a Potter fanboy and Webster persisted in dangerous forays upfield, getting caught out out of position and dangling his leg in dangerous areas where he made deflections when he should not have got involved. In the short time he was here, RDZ coached all that out of him and in the few matches Webster played under him, he was a much improved player. Lift your face out the pizza box and watch a few clips.
You're right that RDZ coached all sort of bravery and risk taking out of Websters game. It turned him from being a good/sometimes great ball playing defender to being a (at best) bang average "normal" defender.
Mondays are painful enough as they are. I'm not really in the mood to spend the day watching clips of us defending under De Zerbi.
Super Steve Earle
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He put in extra training because he has suffered a succession of injuries and needed to improve his all round fitness. RDZ often praised him as a senior, valued member of his squad, but he won't start ahead of Dunk and Van Hecke. That's the reality.
Super Steve Earle
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He's only ever been a bang average normal defender in Premier League terms. His upfield runs and risk taking were what took him below that level. RDZ kept his Brighton career alive.
Super Steve Earle
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So who's next through the in door?
Mancgull
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If we play three at the back, as appears likely, then Adam may be getting more game time.
He does look as if he’s lost a bit of weight over the past couple of months.
Mancgull
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Reckon we are willing to wait a bit to see if we can get Kadioglu and if not then we’ll be back in for Rutter.
I wouldn’t bank on ‘your reality’. Who knows what our new boss will do!
You seem to forget or disregard that Webster was getting rave reviews from Jamie Rednapp and others for his performances and was strongly tipped for an England squad call up before injury sadly put an end to that.
We get it that you don’t rate him, but try and get some balance into your pronouncements.
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Nobby Cybergoat
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- Jul 19, 2021
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Just on Webby. Agree with people saying he's played his best football under Potter, but I think that's just as much to do with his injury record being marginally better and probably a mild preference for 3 at the back.
But new manager, clean slates all round. If Webby can get himself fit and keep himself fit, he absolutely has the skill set to be one of top performers this season. If.
But new manager, clean slates all round. If Webby can get himself fit and keep himself fit, he absolutely has the skill set to be one of top performers this season. If.
Braggfan
In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded
- May 12, 2014
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Under Potter the "dangerous forays upfield" as you put it, had pundits like Carragher claiming Webster was the best ball carrying defender in England and that he should be in the England set up.
Also RDZ didn't coach that out of him, he just had completely different tactics. Potter wanted the centreback to carry the ball forward. RDZ wanted the centreback to put his foot on it and draw opposition players to him so we could play through the press. Its not coaching it out of him, its just asking him to do a different job. Its also worth noting that Potter played 3 central defenders where as RDZ played 2. So Webster was competing for one less space, against Dunk and Van Hecke who have been excellent. Its not that Webster was bad, just the change of formation and form of others meant it was harder to get in the team.
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- Jul 6, 2011
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I mainly agree. However the problem Webster had in the last 2 seasons was when he got a rare start he wasn't always on his A game. He seems to take a game or two to get his form/confidence/whatever back and when you are 3rd or 4th choice in a position you don't usually get that long to cement your place.
Braggfan
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Yeah I'd agree with that. Under Potter, when he was at his peak, he got injured and was out for while. When he came back he looked really rusty and it took him quite a while to get his form back. So I agree, he does seem to take a while to get his form going. Maybe the answer would be to ease him.