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saltash seagull

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Mar 1, 2004
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cornwall
dont know what hull's average crowd is but i know they've had some massive crowds at times this season but so would we have done if we'd been playing at falmer in the 2nd championship season
 




n1 gull

Well-known member
Jul 25, 2003
4,639
Hurstpierpoint
Have you seen the state of their bloody pitch, unless he's going there to play rugby league, he won't have a chance of scoring
 


Brighton Breezy

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Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
Brighton and Hove actually has a bigger population but only just.

Hull are a big club because they can take 9,000 to a mid week away game in the second division.

They have a nice ground a good support base.

They are a bigger clun then us these days.
 




Brighton Breezy

New member
Jul 5, 2003
19,439
Sussex
Of course they are.

They have a good squad, can attract players from Premiership clubs like Barmby and Thelwell.

They get gates over 10,000 people higher then ours and they have a lovely ground which is due to be made bigger.
 




itszamora

Go Jazz Go
Sep 21, 2003
7,282
London
Its a hypothetical question of course, but if we had our ground I would expect our away following to go up as a) new stadium = more funds for team = more success
b) bigger stadium = more people turning up = more people being bit by the bug and wanting to go all over the country wanting to watch the team.

This is whats happening with Hull, and its whats gonna happen with us when we finally get Falmer. Therefore they are probably a bigger club than us at the moment, but when we get Falmer we will be on roughly equal footing with them.
 


mr turd

New member
Nov 22, 2004
852
READING
Tommy Cook reporting said:
Sorry, cannot agree at all with the Hull are bigger than us attitude on this thread. It's nonsense.

Richie, you said it, Hull have never been a top flight club. So that makes them 'sleeping giants' does it? And somehow Wigan are, as well - again, they've not been a top flight club! It's utter nonsense, neither of them have any 'big club' history. Just cos they are currently getting decent crowds, thanks to the new stadium and chairmen with money, that doesn't make them 'big'.

Hull, like Wigan, is a rugby area first and foremost. Always will be.

We are not a rugby area, and when we get our new ground, we'll sh*t on the both of them!

There seems to be a general attitude on this board that somehow we are not a big club. Again, nonsense. A million f*cking people live in Sussex. A quarter of those in Brighton and Hove. We're the sleeping giants, people. Some of you might wanna play down our potential, but after 10 years of the sort of crap we've had, I'm gonna sing it from the rooftops.

Or Richie and Gully, are we just a provincial club as the inspector concluded?
Think you will find its nearer 2 million,or was you on about east sussex:p anyway its the same old cack really,so all we need to do is get this bloody stadium.

Still worries me the small capacity at falmer grrrrrrrrrrrr:smokin:
 


See, there you go again Richie, with this Hull are bigger than us shite. I may be thick, but I don't understand.

Okay, look at it this way, when we were in a similar position to them, on the up, support increasing dramatically, a chairman prepared to invest etc. it was 1977/8. Then we had 25,000 crowds on a regular basis. Therefor we are a bigger club than them. End of story. This moment in time is their best ever period, so they are bound to get good gates.

Hardly surprising that they get 10,000 more than us at home at the moment, is it. What with our ground only holding 7,000.

Here's an idea. If they want to make you cream your pants so much, why not support them? Me, I say the Albion are a big club. Waiting to get bigger on the granting of approval for a new ground......
 




Jim D

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Jul 23, 2003
5,268
Worthing
I agree with Tommy. We've got the capacity from throughout Sussex, Hull just have the support from the City.
 


Weezle

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
714
Brighton
Tommy, i'm with Richie - you're talking about the past. Yes, Brighton COULD be a bigger club, but looking at potential over a three-year time period, i expect bigger things from Hull. But, once we get Falmer...:smokin:
 


smudge

Up the Albion!
Jul 8, 2003
7,376
On the ocean wave
HELLO!!!!!!!

Hull took so many to Shef Weds cos they haven't played them for f***ing years & it's a local derby.

Hull bigger than Brighton? Do me a favour!

Oh yes. where are the nice parts of Hull.

(The women are minging too!)
 




No Weezle, you're wrong. I was talking about the past to illustrate a point. Did the fact that we were getting bigger gates than Sheffield United, Leicester, Southampton, Sunderland and Middlesboro in the late 70s mean we were a bigger club than them? No. It didn't.
 


Weezle

Active member
Jul 7, 2003
714
Brighton
No Tommy, YOU'RE wrong!

This is one of those age old pointless arguments! How do you measure who is the biggest club? By current gates? By potential gates? By annual turnover? By league position?

Perhaps in the late 70s we were bigger than Sheffield United, Leicester, Southampton, Sunderland and Middlesboro, just because we aren't now, doesn't mean we weren't then and it doesn't mean we won't be int he future.

Look at the teams that were in the Top division in the fifties. The giants like Blackpool - where are they now? Blimey, Bolton were huge and then faded away into nothing before making their comeback. Hell even Acrington Stanley were a big club once. Just because a club is big now doesn't mean they always will be does it?

Man U have been the biggest club in Britain for years, much bigger than Chelsea, but that doesn't necessary stay static does it? Liverpool were once the biggest; not anymore.

You have to judge things as they are today, not by living in the past, and by today's standard Hull have a lot more going for them than we do. However, this doesn't mean that this won't change in the near future!
 


graz126

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Oct 17, 2003
4,146
doncaster
i have seen seasons were hull's average attendance was less than 3 or 4 thousand. and that was not to long ago. the only time we averaged less than that was when we were playing miles away at gillingham.
i know our attendances are not brilliant at the moment but then who would get great attendances in a ground as good as withdean. hull wouldn't! boothferry park had quite a high capacity but their attendances at the latter end of their stay there were pretty poor.
 




Okay, Weezle, I agree it is a pointless argument!

However, the point that I was trying to make all along is that too many people (Albion fans that is!) talk us down. That is what I find so irritating, coming on here saying how great Hull are, what potential they have, so much bigger than us etc.

Whatever, I still think it is crap, they may have potential but they have never reached it. Whereas at times, we have - although not enough!

If people sit on here and talk up a club like Hull as being bigger than us (who as I'll say again have won NOTHING, been NOWHERE and are currently NOWHERE!) then it is no wonder that Government inspectors call us a provincial club.

WE, that's us, NOT Hull City can be a massive club. We can certainly be the biggest on the South Coast - historically when doing well, we always had bigger gates than Pompey or The Saints. Let's not forget that, eh!
 






Jul 5, 2003
3,245
Cardiff
Some attendance statistics for you. Brighton and Hull have been in the same division for fifteen of the last thirty seasons. Of those fifteen seasons, two were the seasons Albion spent in exile at Gillingham, so the crowd figures for those years are not relevant and I won't bother to list them. These are the average attendance figures for the other thirteen seasons (with the clubs' final league positions in brackets):

77/78 (Div 2): Brighton (4th) 25,265, Hull (22nd) 6,835

85/86 (Div 2): Brighton (11th) 9,726, Hull (6th) 7,672

86/87 (Div 2): Brighton (22nd) 8,293, Hull (14th) 6,683

88/89 (Div 2): Brighton (19th) 9,048, Hull (21st) 6,666

89/90 (Div 2): Brighton (18th) 8,679, Hull (14th) 6,518

90/91 (Div 2): Brighton (6th) 8,386, Hull (24th) 6,165

92/93 (Div 2): Brighton (9th) 6,710, Hull (20th) 4,672

93/94 (Div 2): Brighton (14th) 7,730, Hull (9th) 5,943

94/95 (Div 2): Brighton (16th) 7,563, Hull (8th) 4,721

95/96 (Div 2): Brighton (23rd) 5,255, Hull (24th) 3,803

96/97 (Div 3): Brighton (23rd) 5,844, Hull (17th) 3,413

99/00 (Div 3): Brighton (11th) 5,740, Hull (14th) 5,736

00/01 (Div 3): Hull (6th) 6,684, Brighton (1st) 6,591

Therefore, over the last 30 years, Hull have recorded higher average attendance figures than Brighton on only three occasions when the teams have been in the same division, regardless of their final league positions. Two were the seasons Albion spent at Gillingham, while the other was the Third Division championship season when Albion's crowds were restricted due to the small capacity of the Withdean Stadium.
 
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Bluejuice

Lazy as a rug on Valium
Sep 2, 2004
8,270
The free state of Kemp Town
My point proven with lovely stats to back it all up.

Thank you Mr Bluebird
 


wehatepalace

Limbs
NSC Patron
Apr 27, 2004
7,332
Pease Pottage
Richie Morris said:
I agree Simster.

Crawley Jets are about the only decent Rugby League side in Sussex.
crawley jets ARE the only rugby league side in sussex !
or WERE the only rugby league side in sussex we moved to reigate at the start of last summer and folded after just a few games and before anyone asks yes i was in the natonal conference winning team !
*breathes on his nail and brushes them on his shirt*:lolol:
 


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