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goldstone

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 5, 2003
7,177
Personally responsible for hundreds of unnecessary deaths in Iraq: servicemen and civilians.

The guy is a plonker.
 










e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
Like all PMs he did good and bad things and it is probably too early to start assessing his legacy.

Without a shadow of a doubt the most successful leader of the Labour Party, however.
 




RexCathedra

Aurea Mediocritas
Jan 14, 2005
3,509
Vacationland
He will never be able to escape his legacy of taking us into an unnecessary war. He asked his soldiers to give their lives and limbs for a fight that was not required. Unforgivable.
This Shakespeare understood -- Henry V:

But if the cause be not good, the King himself hath a heavy
reckoning to make,
when all those legs, and arms, and heads,
chopped off in a battle, shall join together at the latter day,
and cry all, "We died at such a place,...
I am afraid, there are few die well,
that die in a Battle: for how can they charitably dispose
of anything, when blood is their argument? Now, if these
men do not die well, it will be a black matter
for the King, that led them to it.
 


clapham_gull

Legacy Fan
Aug 20, 2003
25,877
I not usually very good at predicting things politically, but I could never bring myself to vote for them.

There was something about him that I took an instant dislike to, it was as if the Labour party had been taken over by a PR company.

Only time I could bring myself to vote for them was as a "protest vote" at the last election. Some sneaky Tories were hanging the polling centre asking for the voting cards as people walked out. As they had no identity (had taken off their rosettes), people assumed it was something official, I even witnessed one woman apologising to them because she hadn't done it instantly.

There were obviously going round and knockin on people's doors who hadn't voted. Nothing wrong with that I guess, but it was obviously done in mind to cover up which party they were representing.

Reason I found out all this was simply because I was hanging outside waiting for my wife and asked them what they were doing. I was still registered to vote in another ward because the local authority had managed to lose my registration for my new place.

Anyway - back to Blair. Well before the last war I bought a few books on Iraq and I'm not really sure that most of the anti-war protestors really understand what a complete bastard that man was, often with the indirect assistance of the West it has to be added.

Much worse than Blair and undoubtedly much worse than Bush ! It's also worth remembering that the war in Afghanistan was actually quite popular with the general public at the time, so let's not rewrite history.

I also seem to remember that the UK and the USA were criticised for not finishing off Saddam first time round. I wonder if we would have been criticising the Major/Bush Senior Governments in the same way back then if they had gone through with it ? Probably not.

I've always wondered what the public reaction to the Falklands conflict would be now. Not so popular, the newspapers and media would have dug in and got all the stories about the cock ups that quite literally opened the door to Argentina right on the front page.

Personally with Iraq, I think it was a really stupid thing to do. I agree with Blair that after 9/11 it was difficult to take a risk and the world "would" be a better place if Saddam was gone.

I say "would" because in their discussions of risk, surely someone talked about the risk of removing a dictator without the slightest clue what to do after that.

Idiots.
 
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