Yet another UKIP councilor who's 'views did not represent the majority of the UKIP'

[The Merry Prankster]

Totally agree. I run my own business and have chosen over the years not to deal with some people, isn't that my choice given we live in a "democracy"?

Not if you choose to not deal with them simply because they are black, female, gay, disabled etc.

The "democracy" has decided you can't do that.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Totally agree. I run my own business and have chosen over the years not to deal with some people, isn't that my choice given we live in a "democracy"?

You have the freedom not to deal with whomever you like as long as you're not discriminating based on prejudice.

To endorse the ability of people to discriminate based on race, sex or religion is frankly appalling.

 

[burnee54]

“I wouldn’t refuse to serve gay people. I’m not saying their position is a correct one. I’m saying they should be free to make that choice themselves.”


So its a question of freedom of choice, then? Freedom to be sexist or homophobic? Should we drop all discrimination laws?

"Hey I have no problem with blacks, but if other people want to be racist that's up to them."

Yeah I don't think so,

Pass as many laws as you like it won't stop people from being people...

..and some people are racist and some people are homophobic.

 

[cunning fergus]

If members, councillors and senior members of a party, regularly come out with ridiculous statements, then yes, they will be an easy target

Just because a councillor or MP expresses a personal view does not mean it has to represent the views of their political party. All parties have councillors and MPs who do not constantly tow the party line on policy matters.

For example, I would not expect the Lib Dems will be subject to media scorn due to the actions of this particular councillor (if guilty).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-25925725

 

[Milton Keynes Seagull]

UKIP, its a kind of middle class BNP. What ever happened to Kilroy Silk by the way?

Actually their economic policies are completely different. While the BNP advocate nationalization of public utilities and other socialist measures including import and export controls, UKIP adopts a classic nineteenth century neo-liberal position, hence their commitment to free trade, as opposed to protectionism. UKIP remains an anti-EU offshoot of the Tories, which because of disgust with the establishment parties has managed to become the party of protest. Kilroy-Sulk went off and formed his own ego party pretentiously named Veritas, which after polling derisory votes in a number of elections all but folded.

 

[Vegas Seagull]

Not if you choose to not deal with them simply because they are black, female, gay, disabled etc.

The "democracy" has decided you can't do that.

Any views on that female only gym off of Queens Road?

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Any views on that female only gym off of Queens Road?

None.

 

[nicko31]

Actually their economic policies are completely different. While the BNP advocate nationalization of public utilities and other socialist measures including import and export controls, UKIP adopts a classic nineteenth century neo-liberal position, hence their commitment to free trade, as opposed to protectionism. UKIP remains an anti-EU offshoot of the Tories, which because of disgust with the establishment parties has managed to become the party of protest. Kilroy-Sulk went off and formed his own ego party pretentiously named Veritas, which after polling derisory votes in a number of elections all but folded.

Yes their economic policies may vary, but bigotry, nationalism and xenophobia are all common values. There are a fair few people that wouldn't mind voting BNP but know it wouldn't be socially acceptable, so go for UKIP instead...

 

[Machiavelli]

Actually their economic policies are completely different. While the BNP advocate nationalization of public utilities and other socialist measures including import and export controls, UKIP adopts a classic nineteenth century neo-liberal position, hence their commitment to free trade, as opposed to protectionism. UKIP remains an anti-EU offshoot of the Tories, which because of disgust with the establishment parties has managed to become the party of protest. Kilroy-Sulk went off and formed his own ego party pretentiously named Veritas, which after polling derisory votes in a number of elections all but folded.

Yes, their economic policies fit in perfectly with stockbroker belt -- flat tax, let the finance sector do whatever it wants to do, and so on -- throw in a zeal for nuclear and disdain for renewables, alongside a generous does of climate change denial. And the electorate come flocking.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Actually their economic policies are completely different. While the BNP advocate nationalization of public utilities and other socialist measures including import and export controls, UKIP adopts a classic nineteenth century neo-liberal position, hence their commitment to free trade, as opposed to protectionism. UKIP remains an anti-EU offshoot of the Tories, which because of disgust with the establishment parties has managed to become the party of protest. Kilroy-Sulk went off and formed his own ego party pretentiously named Veritas, which after polling derisory votes in a number of elections all but folded.

Nobody has ever voted for the BNP or UKIP because of their economic policies.

( ok i know there is probably some weirdo somewhere who thought you know what i don't agree with their thinly veiled racism and and general intolerance but anyone proposing the nationalisation of utilities AND protectionist trade tariffs gets my vote)

 

[cunning fergus]

Nobody has ever voted for the BNP or UKIP because of their economic policies.

( ok i know there is probably some weirdo somewhere who thought you know what i don't agree with their thinly veiled racism and and general intolerance but anyone proposing the nationalisation of utilities AND protectionist trade tariffs gets my vote)

Here you go.........

http://www.tuaeuc.org/no2eu-wp/?page_id=469

 

[The Spanish]

Nobody has ever voted for the BNP or UKIP because of their economic policies.

( ok i know there is probably some weirdo somewhere who thought you know what i don't agree with their thinly veiled racism and and general intolerance but anyone proposing the nationalisation of utilities AND protectionist trade tariffs gets my vote)

i think you are great value.

 

[W.C.]

Pass as many laws as you like it won't stop people from being people...

..and some people are racist and some people are homophobic.

Which is why we have laws to protect people these days. Laws that any civilised society should have if you ask me. Her idea IS nonsense.

 

[W.C.]

Actually their economic policies are completely different. While the BNP advocate nationalization of public utilities and other socialist measures including import and export controls, UKIP adopts a classic nineteenth century neo-liberal position, hence their commitment to free trade, as opposed to protectionism. UKIP remains an anti-EU offshoot of the Tories, which because of disgust with the establishment parties has managed to become the party of protest. Kilroy-Sulk went off and formed his own ego party pretentiously named Veritas, which after polling derisory votes in a number of elections all but folded.

Haha, really?
Sounds like one of Johnson's business name ideas in Peep Show.

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Here you go.........

http://www.tuaeuc.org/no2eu-wp/?page_id=469

Congratulations you found some weirdos

 

[Tom Bombadil]

i think you are great value.

Oh well done, taking something out of context to make it look like im agreeing with the nutters, top work there from Bushy's sidekick, no one will see through that.

 

[The Merry Prankster]

Like any far-right party......

UKIP, its a kind of middle class BNP.........

Yes, their economic policies fit in perfectly with stockbroker belt ........

As much as the press like to say that a lot of Tories defected to UKIP, they never talk about the people from Labour who have also done the same. And your right UKIP is about to sweep the Lib Dems away and good riddance to them.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ers-only-ukip-understands?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

 

[virtual22]

Not if you choose to not deal with them simply because they are black, female, gay, disabled etc.

The "democracy" has decided you can't do that.

Any views on that female only gym off of Queens Road?

None.

It would appear that "democracy" has decided that you can do exactly that:-

http://www.ulu.co.uk/activities/training/selfdefence/ University of London Union Women only! The course is for women only and is suitable for Muslim students" = A business choosing not to deal with me as I am a man;
https://www.saga.co.uk/ - Age discrimination;
http://londonfeministnetwork.org.uk/home/why-women-only - No comment required (still a business not dealing with men though);

There are loads so lets not pretend that there are not examples of businesses deciding who they do business with based on sex and age.

For the record, I choose not to deal with people as they expected me to do loads of work for free on the basis I "might" get some paying business off them, or were just rude, or a pain in the arse to deal with.

 

[Deleted member 22389]

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ers-only-ukip-understands?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2

Used to vote Labour along with my whole family, but never again. Labour has lost something for me, and that is the ability to stick up for the average working man. Just want to know who exactly Labour represent these days, in fact that goes for all the parties. I like the sound of getting out of the EU, even though it will probably never happen, and I like the sound of being able to control our borders properly like they do in another countries, and not squandering hundreds of millions of pounds a year to people we don't know or don't really care about. The three main parties feel tired to me.

 

[BadFish]

Used to vote Labour along with my whole family, but never again. Labour has lost something for me, and that is the ability to stick up for the average working man. Just want to know who exactly Labour represent these days, in fact that goes for all the parties. I like the sound of getting out of the EU, even though it will probably never happen, and I like the sound of being able to control our borders properly like they do in another countries, and not squandering hundreds of millions of pounds a year to people we don't know or don't really care about. The three main parties feel tired to me.

One thing you can be sure of, none of the major political parties represent anyone else but themselves and their mates and pay masters.