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Gotsmanov

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Aug 13, 2003
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Um, just a question really, isn't it a bit unlikely to have 'affordable housing' in a city centre, where land values are really high? Shouldn't we just expect affordable housing to be on the city edges where the land is / should be cheaper to buy and build on? Guess we're kinda f***ed, as most towns can build 360 degrees round the centre, whereas in God's own City, the English channel steals 180 degrees for itself. Added to that, there's the greenbelts around the north of the town (cf. all those Lib Dem twats and the amount of time it took to get a footie stadium). Hang on, now I get why all those buy-to-let landlords are buying here........

I'd have liked to have seen an affordable waterpark built.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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I could be wrong, but given that this was considered prime city centre land by developers, surely it was never likely to be used for anything other than housing or retail?

The price per square foot of land must be astronomical, therefore I doubt people with an interest in building museums or art galleries would even have been in the market. The leisure centre idea is interesting, but most new leisure centres these days are large out of town developments, in space that allows the full works, ie astroturf pitches, tennis courts and so on (see the Triangle at Burgess Hill for an example). That wouldn't have been possible on the New England site.

For the same reason the Albion once tried to change the land usage terms of the Goldstone site, any seller will flog their patch to the highest bidder, which in this case was always likely to be housing and retail developers.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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The Londoners are welcome to the flats in The New Dormitory Quarter. Really don't care. They deserve each other. The new Sainsbury's is indeed a massive improvement on the old Sainsbury's so that's OK. Only grumble about the Jury's Inn hotel is that I used to have a nice-ish long-distance view of the sea from the pavement outside the house, now I've got a not-so-nice view of the Jury's Inn. Oh well.

On the plus side, London road seems to be dragged kicking and screaming into independence from Chavland, there's some decent shops trying to make a go of it there. And if the 5/5A/5B were ever to be routed via the New Dormitory Quarter, then that would be good too. IMHO, like.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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The hotel thing- it may not appear it, but there has been a shortage of mid range hotel rooms in the city.

You've got countless B&Bs, a few of the top-end four and five star establishments, but little in the way of standard, generic two to three star sorts, only the Travelodge by Preston Park, and the Premier Inn or whatever it's called in North Street. The Jury's Inn fits that bill, as (I think) does the other one that's currently going up by the library in Jubilee Street.
 




I'm not 100% up on what the phrase is supposed to mean, but roughly it is supposed to be 'affordable' insofar in that they are rented out by Housing Associations to people who cannot afford the rest of the dwellings for sale, or are part of a scheme where the tenants part-own the property.

'Afforable housing' is the housing stock which is not for the 'for sale' stock.

AS I said earlier there are indicators that should be used to identify local "affordable" rent, housing associations, will now manage the stock of new social housing and will value it, based on their present rents. conditions and quality of build, floor space etc. I assume this is the case at New England.

Its pretty tried and tested. Months ago we had a similar discussion and I posted some guidelines then.
 








The Large One

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Jul 7, 2003
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The hotel thing- it may not appear it, but there has been a shortage of mid range hotel rooms in the city.

You've got countless B&Bs, a few of the top-end four and five star establishments, but little in the way of standard, generic two to three star sorts, only the Travelodge by Preston Park, and the Premier Inn or whatever it's called in North Street. The Jury's Inn fits that bill, as (I think) does the other one that's currently going up by the library in Jubilee Street.

I said this earlier, but was told it didn't matter.
 




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