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[Humour] Would you vote leave or remain..

Would you…

  • Leave

    Votes: 57 14.1%
  • Remain

    Votes: 348 85.9%

  • Total voters
    405


BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,197
The European Commission is like FIFA. We can’t vote for the President of either organisation. In a democracy the electorate can determine the next leader.

Which of the last few Prime Ministers of the UK did the electorate vote for?
 






shingle

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2004
3,223
Lewes
I'm genuinely intrigued, If things are so bad, why is the Bank of England saying that it no longer expects the Uk to enter recession in 2023. Yet eight EU countries have slipped into recession, including Germany. :shrug:
 


SK1NT

Well-known member
Sep 9, 2003
8,762
Thames Ditton
Same as before… remain… gone exactly as expected…

People who voted for brexit had different ideas of brexit… some wanted to remain in the customs union, some wanted to leave .. there was never one type of brexit…


I should never have posted in this thread…
 


B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,722
Shoreham Beaaaach
Not going to read any of the posts as I can predict exactly what is being said. But your asking a staunch Remain voting public, if they'd still vote the same

Ridiculous biased poll by a staunch Remainer

What's next, a poll on not voting Tory in the last election in an area (mostly) which they didn't win in? ( Didn't vote for them myself).
 




BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,197
Not going to read any of the posts as I can predict exactly what is being said. But your asking a staunch Remain voting public, if they'd still vote the same

Ridiculous biased poll by a staunch Remainer

What's next, a poll on not voting Tory in the last election in an area (mostly) which they didn't win in? ( Didn't vote for them myself).
Not sure why you think it is biased. The idea was to see how many people on this board have changed their minds. No-one is claiming its results will show anything else.

A swing from 70% remain to 86% remain (so far)
 


BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,054
The European Commission is like FIFA. We can’t vote for the President of either organisation. In a democracy the electorate can determine the next leader.
From Wiki:

The European Council votes by qualified majority for a nominee for the post of President, taking account of the latest European elections. This proposal is then put before Parliament which must approve or veto the appointment. If an absolute majority of MEPs support the nominee, they are elected.

The European Council is made up of the heads of state of the member states so Cameron, let's say. He has become Prime Minister because his party received the most votes (well, not really because first past the post).

Then the nomination is approved by the MEPs, who we used to vote for.

So I don't really agree with you.

The President is elected by people we have voted for, in one way or another.

Nobody would have turned up to vote for an EU President anyway. Turnout for MEP elections was low, 35% in 2014.

Just because people can't be arsed to turn up and vote for their MEPs doesn't make the process undemocratic.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The right choice has already been made in my opinion, now onwards and upwards.
It would be great to go onwards and upwards, but the reality is we’re going backwards and downwards.
 




Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
The European Commission is like FIFA. We can’t vote for the President of either organisation. In a democracy the electorate can determine the next leader.
We don’t vote for our own Head of State, but I bet you’re happy with that.

We don’t even vote for our own prime minister. We vote for MPs, and then the party (or parties) with the most MPs form a government.

So that being the case here- and having always been the case -why aren’t you happy with something similar on a larger scale?
 


Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
Still Leave for the same reasons. We never again want our laws made by a bunch of unelected bureaucrats in Brussels.
Which laws? Now we’ve established that democratic processes are used to inform the leadership of the EU, which laws specifically bothered you?
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Which laws? Now we’ve established that democratic processes are used to inform the leadership of the EU, which laws specifically bothered you?
It makes me laugh when people complain about EU laws made elsewhere. Why do they think Sunak was trying to get 4000 items of legislation off our statute books?
Did they appear by magic, or did our Parliament decide to accept them by voting them on?

Even Sunak has realised he doesn’t need to have a complete ‘bonfire’ and is now only wanting to remove 600 odd.

The British Parliament is sovereign, and always has been. WE NEVER LOST SOVEREIGNTY @goldstone.
 




Mental Lental

Well-known member
Jul 5, 2003
2,299
Shiki-shi, Saitama


rogersix

Well-known member
Jan 18, 2014
8,202
It makes me laugh when people complain about EU laws made elsewhere. Why do they think Sunak was trying to get 4000 items of legislation off our statute books?
Did they appear by magic, or did our Parliament decide to accept them by voting them on?

Even Sunak has realised he doesn’t need to have a complete ‘bonfire’ and is now only wanting to remove 600 odd.

The British Parliament is sovereign, and always has been. WE NEVER LOST SOVEREIGNTY @goldstone.
is it magic? ...........it is, isn't it
 








Hamilton

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
12,953
Brighton
It makes me laugh when people complain about EU laws made elsewhere. Why do they think Sunak was trying to get 4000 items of legislation off our statute books?
Did they appear by magic, or did our Parliament decide to accept them by voting them on?

Even Sunak has realised he doesn’t need to have a complete ‘bonfire’ and is now only wanting to remove 600 odd.

The British Parliament is sovereign, and always has been. WE NEVER LOST SOVEREIGNTY @goldstone.
History will show Brexit to be one of the biggest lies ever foisted on a democratic people.
 








CaptainDaveUK

Well-known member
Oct 18, 2010
1,535
We don’t vote for our own Head of State, but I bet you’re happy with that.

We don’t even vote for our own prime minister. We vote for MPs, and then the party (or parties) with the most MPs form a government.

So that being the case here- and having always been the case -why aren’t you happy with something similar on a larger scale?
Yes but unlike the EU, the UK electorate determines which party wins the most seats which in turn determines who is the Prime Minister. The EU is not the same and is similar in many ways to how FIFA is run, which most people would agree is not the best.
 




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