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[NSC] Would you take a point at Sheffield utd if both west brom and Fulham lose their next 2.



Cowfold Seagull

Fan of the 17 bus
Apr 22, 2009
22,114
Cowfold
I would. Il probably get coated for this thread but hay ho.proceed ladies and gentlemen.

Well obviously l am hoping beyond hope that we will it and cement our place in this division for next season, but yes, l would take a point if our nearest protagonists lose the next two.

At this stage of the season with games running out, l just want to get over that safety line asap.
 




Lifelong Supporter

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2009
2,104
Burgess Hill
Not sure I buy that Big Sam mythology.

Chelsea had a man sent off after 25 minutes and they had a day when every shot went in. Southampton were resting players, or at least had one eye on, the FA Cup semi final. Prior to that WBA were doing nothing.

Still gotta win em, but I'm not judging Fat Sam on those two results ar worried about them rallying.

Thanks, that has helped me breathe more easily !!
 


KeegansHairPiece

New member
Jan 28, 2016
1,829
Yes for sure.

Of course I may well be proved wrong but I think we will be looking to be tight at Sheff United and certainly not lose the point we start with. Our record against the lower sides (excepting Newcastle) is pretty dire. Whilst many thought Fulham were the side to watch it is turning out to be perhaps WBA. Sam gets results, probably too late for this season but result wise he is doing pretty well.


If you create a league table from when SA took over (link to table between dates) WBA are still in the bottom 3 for the period SA has been in charge. They have 17 pts from 18 games under Sam 'Gets Results' Allardyce. His record is the same as Fulham for the same period. Amazing that the impression is he's doing pretty well.
 


Reddleman

Well-known member
May 17, 2017
2,172
It’s a given we all want a win. But... given we got a point against Chelsea I would accept another point on Saturday. Nudging up to 35 with our goal difference and we are so nearly there particularly if West Brom lose tonight.

Also, apart from maybe Man City who should have league wrapped up by then, I can see every game left being a genuine opportunity for more points.
 


Napper

Well-known member
Jul 9, 2003
24,452
Sussex
If you create a league table from when SA took over (link to table between dates) WBA are still in the bottom 3 for the period SA has been in charge. They have 17 pts from 18 games under Sam 'Gets Results' Allardyce. His record is the same as Fulham for the same period. Amazing that the impression is he's doing pretty well.

Thats not bad for the team WBA have though. Absolutely awful side and that ratio of points is survival over a season which with the side wba have is quite impressive.

What was the table when he took over ?

Its prob they have sorted out defence and won 2 in a row so seem the most likely to be the threat. Lose tonight nips alot of that in the bud though
 




schmunk

Why oh why oh why?
Jan 19, 2018
10,347
Mid mid mid Sussex
If you create a league table from when SA took over (link to table between dates) WBA are still in the bottom 3 for the period SA has been in charge. They have 17 pts from 18 games under Sam 'Gets Results' Allardyce. His record is the same as Fulham for the same period. Amazing that the impression is he's doing pretty well.

I think their 6 points and 8 goals from their last 2 matches might be playing some part in that...
 


KeegansHairPiece

New member
Jan 28, 2016
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Thats not bad for the team WBA have though. Absolutely awful side and that ratio of points is survival over a season which with the side wba have is quite impressive.

What was the table when he took over ?

Its prob they have sorted out defence and won 2 in a row so seem the most likely to be the threat. Lose tonight nips alot of that in the bud though

It's 0.94 ppg, so if they'd done that all season, they would be on 29 pts - clearly a lot more nervy for us, but still in the bottom 3. Over 38 games the projected total would be 35.7 pts - so touch and go whether it would be survival or not. They finished clear runners-up behind Leeds and have PL experience in that squad - not sure why you would find all that quite impressive.
 


studio150

Well-known member
Jul 30, 2011
30,226
On the Border
Just wonder if Potter will change his tactics for this game as he did last season.
Take a point now, but would really prefer becoming safe as quickly as possible, otherwise I will need to increase my blood pressure pills.
 




Icy Gull

Back on the rollercoaster
Jul 5, 2003
72,015
Not worth it’s own thread but Feck Off 8pm kickoffs
 


Pavilionaire

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
31,263
If it were me I'd risk it all for the 3 points vs Sheff Utd.

We cannot hope to hang onto our best players if we are simply standing still or regressing. We have to come out of this season with tangible proof we have improved upon last season, and that means points and places.

The higher we finish the better placed we are to keep our best players and attract the best signings, and we can't keeping moaning about playing better football than Burnley, Newcastle, Palace etc if we keep finishing below them.
 






Albion in the north

Well-known member
Jul 13, 2012
1,556
Ooop North
3 points for me.
The reason that weve performed so badly against the bottom half sides is that they tend to sit back and defend and we struggle to break them down. Sheffield Utd have no real reason to do that now.
 


Rugrat

Well-known member
Mar 13, 2011
10,224
Seaford
I can't see either of WBA or Fulham getting 35 points so on that basis I very much hope we go for and get the win and try to finish the season in some style
 


jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
14,501
I'm very pragmatic. Was delighted with our 0-0 draw home to Everton, even more so away to Chelsea. But there is a time when we have to be winning, and I expect nothing less than 3 points on Saturday.
 




dangull

Well-known member
Feb 24, 2013
5,161
No, we are not going down, its about finishing as high as possible and building for next season for me.
 


Beanstalk

Well-known member
Apr 5, 2017
3,029
London
The table if we exclude Burnley win and Newcastle pick up points would look like this (maximum points in brackets)

Brighton 33 -5 34 (49)
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Fulham 35 -20 27 (36)
West Brom 33 -32 24 (39)

We'd need 1 win from our last 5 to guarantee finishing ahead of Fulham and West Brom would have to be absolutely flawless. So yes, it is a no brainer.
 


KeegansHairPiece

New member
Jan 28, 2016
1,829
I'm very pragmatic. Was delighted with our 0-0 draw home to Everton, even more so away to Chelsea. But there is a time when we have to be winning, and I expect nothing less than 3 points on Saturday.

Not to mention 10 pts above WBA, and 7 pts above Fulham with a far superior GD - get a bloody win done.
 








Shropshire Seagull

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2004
8,787
Telford
We should be beating teams like Sheffield United !

But that's not the Brighton way ....
Expect us to lose to them but then pick up 3 points by drawing our next 3 games: Leeds, Wolves & West Ham
 


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