Would you be any less miserable in palace's position?

[Se20]

He took one look at the grey slums of the SE postcode area, thought he was in depression-era south Baltimore, albeit with significantly shitter weather, moved onto crumbling 19th Century Shithurst Park, the doubts growing in his mind all the time and was then introduced to Wilfried 'Thicky' Zaha, touted as the best player at the club and he was back on his private Boeing 767 before you can say 'Steve Parish is an etogistical tw@t, who is impossible to work with.'

That old Beautiful Brighton/ Shitty Croydon chestnut.
It's lovely having a slow walk around the Laines, with all the poncey boutiques and coffee shops, but scratch at the thin vaneer, and you see the true picture.
Scores of homeless people, huddled in doorways, trying to get enough for their next fix.
It's similar to lots of Brighton fans, after the first euphoric rush of the Amex,and hallucinations of the PL, cold turkey has hit, and you're being led shivering to the abyss of the third division.
Enjoy TB's stadium and state of the art training complex !

 

[Bombadier Botty]

That old Beautiful Brighton/ Shitty Croydon chestnut.
It's lovely having a slow walk around the Laines, with all the poncey boutiques and coffee shops, but scratch at the thin vaneer, and you see the true picture.
Scores of homeless people, huddled in doorways, trying to get enough for their next fix.
It's similar to lots of Brighton fans, after the first euphoric rush of the Amex,and hallucinations of the PL, cold turkey has hit, and you're being led shivering to the abyss of the third division.
Enjoy TB's stadium and state of the art training complex !

Even with your blue and red tinted spectacles on, you would be hard pressed to deny that any of the above are preferable to having Parish at your football club and having wasted hundreds of thousands of pounds on white cladding. What is that white cladding going to look like in a year or two's time?

 

[Se20]

Even with your blue and red tinted spectacles on, you would be hard pressed to deny that any of the above are preferable to having Parish at your football club and having wasted hundreds of thousands of pounds on white cladding. What is that white cladding going to look like in a year or two's time?

Probably better than blue cladding covered in seagull shit

 

[maltaseagull]

New stadium would be nice, but we're getting more bums on seats than you are at the moment so it's not the end of the world.

Also, we've made an awful lot more than £60m. Our second season in the PL will earn us another £60m+, plus we're due parachute payments if we get relegated and don't bounce back. We're a lot more attractive as a takeover proposition now, which would help take the club to the next level.

I am sure that your income is more than £60+ but what about expenses? How much have you spent on wages and transfers? Pretty sure the parachute payments will keep the club going while they either bounce back up or, if not, get rid of the expensive players. In reality there are quite a few ex prem clubs in the Championship who have not bounced back and are in serious financial difficulties now.

 

[Prince Monolulu]

I am sure that your income is more than £60+ but what about expenses? How much have you spent on wages and transfers? Pretty sure the parachute payments will keep the club going while they either bounce back up or, if not, get rid of the expensive players. In reality there are quite a few ex prem clubs in the Championship who have not bounced back and are in serious financial difficulties now.

Correct, although I would not like to see The Caravan Club in financial difficulty and unable to service debts. That would never happen.

 

[Danny-Boy]

Forget the rivalries for a second, the 60 million isn't going to buy them a new stadium. That's what they need. The facilities there are shocking although admittedly I find the Amex somewhat soulless when the sexy football is removed.

That's the point. Albion are suffering from the "St Mary's effect". I never went to The Dell as a supporter but told it was pretty gruesome. Soton spent a lot of money on a modern stadium but after they moved to it they actually were relegated four seasons later. Commentators at the time said St Mary's lacked the "atmos" of The Dell.

In Brighton's case there is the feeling of "the promised land" at the AMEX after the horrors of Gillingham and "Fortress" Withdean, but you now have a stadium with 30k places to fill. If it starts getting only 20k crowds it's going to look a bit empty. And that's a bad way to create that "Fortress" mentality, particularly with the attempt to make it a mini-Wembley with facilities.

Opposing teams just don't feel intimidated. They must have dreaded playing at Withdean. Selhurst isn't Withdean but it's an old-fashioned type of ground even if all-seater.

And look at Bournemouth and Brentford. Both I believe have standing and both grounds can really rock when packed out, that's a home bonus (usually).

 

[jimbob5]

That's the point. Albion are suffering from the "St Mary's effect". I never went to The Dell as a supporter but told it was pretty gruesome. Soton spent a lot of money on a modern stadium but after they moved to it they actually were relegated four seasons later. Commentators at the time said St Mary's lacked the "atmos" of The Dell.

In Brighton's case there is the feeling of "the promised land" at the AMEX after the horrors of Gillingham and "Fortress" Withdean, but you now have a stadium with 30k places to fill. If it starts getting only 20k crowds it's going to look a bit empty. And that's a bad way to create that "Fortress" mentality, particularly with the attempt to make it a mini-Wembley with facilities.

Opposing teams just don't feel intimidated. They must have dreaded playing at Withdean. Selhurst isn't Withdean but it's an old-fashioned type of ground even if all-seater.

And look at Bournemouth and Brentford. Both I believe have standing and both grounds can really rock when packed out, that's a home bonus (usually).

And of course Southampton never recovered from it.

 

[Danny-Boy]

And of course Southampton never recovered from it.

Of course they did but it took time..and a spell in Div 1 don't forget,

 

[eaglejez]

Correct, although I would not like to see The Caravan Club in financial difficulty and unable to service debts. That would never happen.

well not for a few years given the extra >200m windfall. As you say I'm sure we'll pee that up the wall quickly !

We can't all be so lucky to rack up 160m of debts (plus >10m pa) and have them written off !! Well, when I say written off. 60m converted to equity (aka written off) but I'm guessing the 102m directors loan will follow suit ? No interest or capital to service so far. Well obviously when the accounts need to include depreciation of the stadium they are going to look a lot worse than the YE13 14m loss (apart from YE15 which should be a lot better due to the Ulloa sale - Ed) but that's not an FPP issue so that's only TB's problem- so again pretty lucky !

We can't all live within our means like you do so please don't gloat too much

(before anyone says anything the BBS is down !!)

 

[Easy 10]

well not for a few years given the extra >200m windfall. As you say I'm sure we'll pee that up the wall quickly !

We can't all be so lucky to rack up 160m of debts (plus >10m pa) and have them written off !! Well, when I say written off. 60m converted to equity (aka written off) but I'm guessing the 102m directors loan will follow suit ? No interest or capital to service so far. Well obviously when the accounts need to include depreciation of the stadium they are going to look a lot worse than the YE13 14m loss (apart from YE15 which should be a lot better due to the Ulloa sale - Ed) but that's not an FPP issue so that's only TB's problem- so again pretty lucky !

We can't all live within our means like you do so please don't gloat too much

(before anyone says anything the BBS is down !!)

This coming from the club that did EXACTLY that with all its debts, having gone into administration, twice.

Priceless. Absolutely priceless.

 

[eaglejez]

This coming from the club that did EXACTLY that with all its debts, having gone into administration, twice.

Priceless. Absolutely priceless.

that's another argument that's been done to death (it was 5m, the Club were put into admin against their will over a technicality, the st johns ambulance didn't lose any money etc etc)
Concentrate on the present

 

[jimbob5]

Of course they did but it took time..and a spell in Div 1 don't forget,

Sure. But what changed?

 

[Easy 10]

that's another argument that's been done to death.
Concentrate on the present

 

[Black Rod]

Can't see how any Palace fans would rather be in their position. I'd hate to be playing the likes of United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man City and The Arsenal and losing. Seeing some of the best players in the world must be terrible as well.

Give me being beaten by Brentford and Bournemouth and seeing Alex Revell score equalisers against us for Rotherham any day of the week

 

[Diablo]

I for one would rather watch us being beaten by Man City,Arsenal,Chelsea etc than Fulham,Derby or Millwall or for that matter impossible to think of at start of season Crawley,Scunthorpe or Chesterfield.

But heah got to be positive today starts the second half of the season lets start with a win>

 

[Return of the Makh]

I wonder if Palace are any happier than us since getting promoted? Obviously relegation to the Championship is not as bad as going down to L1 but Palace's crapness this season is the only thing keeping my football mojo alive at the moment.

Bump!

 

[Tony Meolas Loan Spell]

I think the answer has to be we need to lock this thread!

 

[little al]

I think the answer has to be we need to lock this thread!

LOL

 

[nwgull]

Bump!

But you have a miserable empty life right? It's the only explanation for searching for, and bumping, a 3 month old thread of a team you don't support at almost midnight.

 

[WATFORD zero]

I don't think i could support a new club like MK Dons or CPFC 2010 Limited. I prefer a club with some history.