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[Albion] Worst performing bottom three sides for a while



Bozza

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I was curious as to how this season's current bottom three compared to recent seasons at the same point in time.

I know Burnley have a game to play still, but it's still a pretty shoddy performance all round from those three clubs.

Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6
 






Mr Putdown

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Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

Is that assuming that you would have had a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season?
 


blue-shifted

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Goal difference is also far better, as it has been for the last few seasons.

Because we've been competitive in 90%+ of games no matter the opposition. Not many of the habitual bottom half teams can claim that
 


Nathan

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How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?
 






Bozza

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Is that assuming that you would have had a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season?

No, it's because we DO have a superior GD to the other teams who also had six points at this stage of the season.

Hope this helps.
 


Bozza

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How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?

Sides who were ultimately relegated in red:

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6
 




neilbard

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I was curious as to how this season's current bottom three compared to recent seasons at the same point in time.

I know Burnley have a game to play still, but it's still a pretty shoddy performance all round from those three clubs.

Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

How many of these teams in the bottom 3 at this stage of the season went on to be relegated at the end of that season?

2012-13 QPR and Reading Relegated

2013-14 Norwich Relegated

2014-15 QPR and Burnley Relegated

2015-16 Newcastle and Villa Relegated

2016-17 Sunderland Relegated

2017-18 No side relegated

2018-19 Cardiff and Huddersfield Relegated

2019-20 Norwich and Watford Relegated
 


Nathan

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Sides who were ultimately relegated in red:

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

So 15 out 30 teams were relegated.

Fun fact then - 50% of teams in the bottom 3 after 8 games are relegated.
 


Goldstone1976

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So 15 out 30 teams were relegated.

Fun fact then - 50% of teams in the bottom 3 after 8 games are relegated.

I wonder what percentage of the other 50% came from the next three teams up the league?

Asking for a friend.
 




Papa Lazarou

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Jul 7, 2003
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I was curious as to how this season's current bottom three compared to recent seasons at the same point in time.

I know Burnley have a game to play still, but it's still a pretty shoddy performance all round from those three clubs.

Slightly interesting to note that our six points would have us in the bottom three on only three of the past 11 seasons.

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

I'm obviously having a 'moment' but what does the number after the year represent? e.g. 2020 - 6
 




Barham's tash

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Great statage [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION].

Respective runs of fixtures look tough all round:

Burnley:

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Sheff Utd:

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Fulham:

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So it could be a rosy looking Christmas if we manage to snaffle 4-6 points from our games:

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Easy right?! [emoji28]
 






schmunk

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Sides who were ultimately relegated in red:

2020 - 6 - Sheff Utd 1 - Burnley 2 - West Brom - 3
2019 - 16 - Watford 3 - Norwich 6 - Everton 7
2018 - 7 - Cardiff 2 - Newcastle 3 - Huddersfield 3
2017 - 13 - Palace 3 - Bournemouth 4 - Leicester 6
2016 - 12 - Sunderland 2 - Swansea 4 - Stoke 6
2015 - 10 - Newcastle 3 - Sunderland 3 - Villa 4
2014 - 15 - QPR 4 - Burnley 4 - Newcastle 7
2013 - 11 - Sunderland 1 - Palace 3 - Norwich 7
2012 - 10 - QPR 3 - Reading 3 - Southampton 4
2011 - 16 - Blackburn 5 - Wigan 5 - Bolton 6
2010 - 18 - West Ham 6 - Liverpool 6 - Wolves 6

So 15 out 30 teams were relegated.

Fun fact then - 50% of teams in the bottom 3 after 8 games are relegated.

I reckon this season it'll be Burnley and North-West Brom.
 




A1X

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This is probably just as well TBH
 




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Great statage [MENTION=6886]Bozza[/MENTION].

Respective runs of fixtures look tough all round:

Burnley:

62ec79d34bd7ff4c8955eaeecee0023c.jpg


Sheff Utd:

57bbd709ac0a02e1f70f22c81356b095.jpg



Fulham:

54b797f5887da3c3a94b7c513fee9233.jpg


So it could be a rosy looking Christmas if we manage to snaffle 4-6 points from our games:

a504df848ee589e746b4bc8e7310c758.jpg


Easy right?! [emoji28]

I have a feeling we are going to beat Liverpool.
If we get three points against them then suddenly 4-6 points looks very achievable with the other fixtures shown.i reckon we will get about 7-8 points from those fixtures if we beat Liverpool .
 




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