Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
"And where is he? With his trotters up! ****."
I'm surprised Dyer didn't pop around his gaff and sort 'im aaaaaaaaaaaht. Pwoper hard.
"And where is he? With his trotters up! ****."
Can't stand the man, but not even close.surely Blair deserves a mention .....2nd by a lip if not a dead heat
Can't stand the man, but not even close.
Cameron gets it.
May could yet pip him. In my book she's my close second.
Eden was rubbish, but hey, he was unwell.
Churchill not much better - the story he has written for himself as a result of WW2 saves him, but in all honesty, he was not as good as painted out to be.
Chamberlain is there because of the story that Churchill let be put about around appeasement - fact is that had Chamberlain done anything else we'd all be under the Third Reich now. He was actually a good parliamentarian. He just got the job at the very wrong time.
The ridiculous Blair narrative means he'll get votes from the left and right all down to Iraq. The same lilly livered liberals that attack him for the war were wringing their hands over who was going to take on Saddam only months before the war started. Add to that the minimum wage, tax credits for working mums etc, and the right hate him as well. Pathetic really.
Attlee was wet. He should have delivered much more. Largely failed to seize the initiative by not going for a modernisation and reconstruction programme post-war. NHS saves him.
Callaghan inherited a poison chalice. Might have been OK.
Major is unrecognised. Laid the way for economic growth under Blair. Could have done so much more if it hadn't been for the loons in his own party.
Why is Disraeli in there?
surely Blair deserves a mention .....2nd by a lip if not a dead heat
has to be Callaghan, bankrupted the country, lost control of the unions, winter of discontent etc.
unfair to say Cameroon because he dared to engage in a democratic process, even if it was misguided.
You make some very good points there, especially the highlighted bit. I voted Ted Heath. Dreadful PM while I was at school. 3 day week. Hyper inflation. Useless. I would have gone for Cameron but Ted tips it for me.
Ted Heath, for a variety of reasons unrelated to politics.
Compared to the last two PMs. I'd have Blair back like a shot.
Ted got my vote, he was rubbish.
only reason i'd have him back is to sort out the two major **** ups he allowed .....Zimbabwe & The Gulf......both beyond hope so nah ....**** him , he's a proper ****
only reason i'd have him back is to sort out the two major **** ups he allowed .....Zimbabwe & The Gulf......both beyond hope so nah ....**** him , he's a proper ****
He was Prime Minister in favour of Remain and with a total lack of vision, passion, strategy or cohesive thinking made as big a balls up of the Remain campaign as you could ever wish to make. 'Project Fear', the traditional Tory go to election strategies fell flat on a general public split across party lines. He put out a binary referendum in which he failed to prepare for both results, then left his party and government torn and divided, leaderless and with no contingency or planning on what the government strategy would be in the event of Leave. It was shambolic, irresponsible, cowardly, self serving and a betrayal of office. I don't think anyone votes for a leader that would do that. Unless you did?
Indeed. I'm sure Cameron or May would have stood up to the Bush government and refused to get involved in Iraq....... oh.Fair enough. It's my opinion. If you think Cameron or May are better that's your call.
Indeed. I'm sure Cameron or May would have stood up to the Bush government and refused to get involved in Iraq....... oh.
As [MENTION=225]Hamilton[/MENTION] said earlier, I know people who were full on in support of removing Saddam who now conveniently use Iraq as a stick to beat Blair with. And as I said, I can't stand him as a person (especially the faux Christian stuff), plus I was one of the million plus people who marched against the war.
But, as a PM and looking at his record as a whole, Blair in comparison to Cameron is like comparing something a bit distasteful to Crystal Palace.