With GOD back in goal....

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Anyone can play with passion.

No they can't.

 

[Rookie]

If Kuipers stays in the team he could very well cost us our League 1 status. I hope Wilkins see's sense and gets rid of him. There is NO WAY he should be offered a new contract. Out with the useless deadwood I say. Thats not being harsh just honest, Carpenter should not be offered a new one either. Both players good in there day - about 4 years ago, neither up to league standard anymore.

got to disagree, think having Kuipers on the bench gives us the best keeping line up in the league and will also allow Sullivan and Martin to go out on loan again and get more game experience. Competition for places is good

Really don't think he will cost us out league 1 status either

 

[chez]

got to disagree, think having Kuipers on the bench gives us the best keeping line up in the league and will also allow Sullivan and Martin to go out on loan again and get more game experience. Competition for places is good

Really don't think he will cost us out league 1 status either

Under normal circumstances you would be right. But while Kuipers is here the numbnuts in the crowd are making it impossible for Henderson to concentrate on his football. If Kuipers were to leave I reckon the numbnuts would get off Hendo's back and allow him to be the brilliant keeper that he is. Its a shame really but the Kuipers extremists have made it this way.

 

[elwheelio]

Hendo is a decent keeper and Kuipers is decent too. I'm not in to all this 'Hendo out' shit, I just think that they are both pretty decent but that Hendo's weaknesses, and some of the faults in back line, often do seem to eminate from Hendo's inability to really command the area. I'm sure this will come with age and experience but, for the moment, I'd keep Kuipers in for a bit. Well done FDM!

 

[dougdeep]

Hendo is No1.

Surely the one who is playing is our real number one. whichever one it is.

 

[El Presidente]

So what if he can't kick? Do we really need to talk about it? It's not like anyone on here doesn't know that. The point is, kicking is a totally trivial part of the game for a goalkeeper (

Utter, utter rubbish. Not being able to clear your lines, slicing the ball to the opposition, and hoofing the ball into touch from goal kicks gives the opposition an advantage.

As for commanding the box, WHY did Tank have to hoof the ball clear when there was no one near him apart from FDM two feet away yesterday afternoon.

I personally don't think there is a lot of difference between Hendo and FDM, each has strengths and weaknesses, but to make one out to be Mother Theresa, and the other the bastard son of a thousand maniacs is just embarrassing.

 

[chez]

I love the way everyone claims the clean sheet was purely down to Michel not having any shots to save. Don't you think the reason for this is possibly because he is such an accomplished, organised, and responsible keeper? Compare this to the erratic clown we usually endure each week, and it's hardly surprising to find that the opposition have gone from causing complete panic in our box to not having a shot.

So what if he can't kick? Do we really need to talk about it? It's not like anyone on here doesn't know that. The point is, kicking is a totally trivial part of the game for a goalkeeper (unless your name is Mark McGhee), whereas organising a defence and stopping the ball ending up in your net are quite significant - both aspects that Michel has proved he is superior at.

Long may he reign

I sense a hell of a lot of tongue in cheek in yopur post mate but I'll reply anyway.

Firstly to echo Yorkie's reply earlier about defence playing so well coz KTC was in goal..... Having a laugh!!

Secondly, the way a goalkeeper kicks is integeral to the game. AN opposition will position their players according to the goalkeepers kicking. With this in mind Brightons oppostion, when KTC is in goal push forward right into our half knowing full well that he hasnt got an earthly of kicking over the half way line. This in itself instantly puts Brighton under pressure and sets the presidence (sp?) for the whole game.

 

[dougdeep]

I sense a hell of a lot of tongue in cheek in yopur post mate but I'll reply anyway.

Firstly to echo Yorkie's reply earlier about defence playing so well coz KTC was in goal..... Having a laugh!

She didn't and who is KTC?

 

[chez]

She didn't and who is KTC?

She did, maybe on a different thread though & KTC is Kuipers The Clown, thought everyone knew that.

 

[Albion Dan]

If Kuipers stays in the team he could very well cost us our League 1 status.

What a load of complete bollocks. Are you that caught up in this Hendo v Kuipers argument (and the fact that Mcghee fell out with Kuipers) that you can say stuff like that, read it back, and not feel deep embarrasment.

Kuipers was the keeper that pulled off stunning saves to get us back to back championships and also keep us in the Championship. Was no coincedence that as soon as he got injured we almost went down season before last.

The bloke is a class act and any other div 1 team would be glad to have him between the sticks.

 

[chez]

Kicking isn't as important as commanding the area and organising though, is it? It's not like Michel passes straight to the opposition strikers - the worst we are looking at is conceding a throw-in on the half way line!

I agree with you about there not being much between them, in terms of talent. If anything, I am more comfortable with our Wayne in situations like backpasses, and coming (and holding) crosses. The problem is he couldn't organise a prayer in a mosque. Until that's sorted, as well as his confidence is back, it's Michel all the way. Don't get me wrong, I think Henderson could be a very good goalkeeper, but he needs to be a lot more commanding and instill confidence in the defence to justify his place. Currently, and for the forseeable future, Michel is miles ahead in that department (and one mix up in his first game in months doesn't change that).

See, I can understand this post and if everyone were to make their point like this then I dont think anyone would have a problem. BUT with people slagging Wayne off all the time he's never gonna be able to develop into the quality keeper we know he is capable of being. And that is going to be a massive loss and a huge own goal by some of the Brighton fans.

 

[Yorkie]

What a load of complete bollocks. Are you that caught up in this Hendo v Kuipers argument (and the fact that Mcghee fell out with Kuipers) that you can say stuff like that, read it back, and not feel deep embarrasment.

Kuipers was the keeper that pulled off stunning saves to get us back to back championships and also keep us in the Championship. Was no coincidence that as soon as he got injured we almost went down season before last.

The bloke is a class act and any other div 1 team would be glad to have him between the sticks.

The only season we stayed up in the Championship was when Kuipers had his shoulder ripped apart and Blayney played.

 

[chez]

The bloke is a class act and any other div 1 team would be glad to have him between the sticks.

Then why did no fucker want him when we were begging them to take him off our hands?

Simple reason is that he's JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

 

[chez]

Nothing tongue-in-cheek whatsoever!

You can't seriously be telling me that Michel's kicking gives the other team a significant advantage? From what I can tell, he has two standard kicks: a) goes straight up in the air, usually just about making halfway, and it becomes a free-for-all in midfield, and b) Hooked straight out of play on the halfway line.

So, with that in mind, what advantage do the opposition get bar a throw-in? You can't be implying a throw-in fifty yards from goal gives them an advantage?

Yes, his kicks put as at a distinct territorial disadvantage EVERY time.

 

[dougdeep]

Then why did no fucker want him when we were begging them to take him off our hands?

Simple reason is that he's JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Because he is the highest paid player at the club.

 

[Ice Man]

Then why did no fucker want him when we were begging them to take him off our hands?

Simple reason is that he's JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

Crewe tried to sign him didn't they?

 

[Yorkie]

It's pretty obvious that people are entrenched in their views on either keeper (I like both) so why don't we wait and see what happens on Tuesday when Michel is bound to keep the shirt and will face much sterner opposition in Bristol City.