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Well, we've never sold 22,500 tickets to home fans. 19,400 is our record.
Again, it was one of the options open to them...
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Well, we've never sold 22,500 tickets to home fans. 19,400 is our record.
Again, it was one of the options open to them...
If points are taken away:
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If points are awarded for unplayed games (I remember is being said a 3-0 win is awarded if one team fails to fulfil a fixture, I don't know if that is or ever was current, but is the basis for this table)
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If points are awarded for unplayed games (I remember is being said a 3-0 win is awarded if one team fails to fulfil a fixture, I don't know if that is or ever was current, but is the basis for this table)
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Not Andy Naylor
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It was nine points as Premier League clubs play fewer games, and technically speaking the first CVA payments don't fall due until April so they haven't defaulted. Yet.
And sadly, they won't go bust - football clubs almost never do. But if ever one deserved to ....
This was discussed last year with Plymouth looking at maybe not finishing the season. There was an example of points being awarded for unplayed games (possibly a non-league thing, rather than removing points for those played. Apparently, there is a belief (that I haven't actually checked in the rules and regulations yet) that if you fail to fulfil a fixture, your opponents will be awarded a 3-0 win.
I imagine the Football League will look at what the table looks like both with points awarded and points taken away, and see which one causes the least disruption, least chance of legal challenges dragging everything out, and cite whichever precedent applies.
Dave the OAP
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ill take the three goals and three points option thankyouverymuchly
seagullsovergrimsby
#cpfctinpotclub
The FL rules are quite explicit , all the results are wiped out and there isn't a way of awarding points (or 3 goals) to a club who hasn't played the club which has folded
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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From the Football League's website 12.2.1 is the relevant bit to what happens if the club resign from the league during the season.
The Football League | About Us | Regulations | Regulations Detail | Section 3 - The League
withdeanwombat
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If they fold before March 10th do Brighton season ticket holders become creditors on Portsmouths list,and will they pay me 20p in the pound for my purchased rail tickets ?
brightn'ove
cringe
ouch for west ham, that could really f*** them up.
Ok, ignoring the awarded points table, this highlights the teams whose fate changes (automatic to play off, play off to no play off).
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Reading go from play offs to automatic, with west ham going the other way.
Middlesborough and cardiff switch places.
(click to enlarge -I highlighted Bristol because I wasn't sure if that meant they are now in the relegation zone, the excerpt from the R&Rs show they do no, so they can be ignored)
Reading go from play offs to automatic, with west ham going the other way.
Middlesborough and cardiff switch places.
jackalbion
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i would also be a bit pissed if all season my team have been competing for a league 1 playoff spot then for the playoffs just to be abandoned
severnside gull
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It is all a media PR job
Seriously, unless the administrator applies to the court for the club to go into liquidation there is no way that it will happen before the end of the season.
How likely is that to happen? IMO not at all. If the administrator really felt that the club was unsalvageably insolvent then he should not have been talking about his concerns today but should have used his time to go before the court to put them into liquidation. It is not in any other creditor's interest from either a revenue or PR viewpoint to put them into liquidation.
What the administrator has actually done is to state very publicly that they need additional help to survive beyond the end of the season/through the summer when there is limited revenue but little less in the way of costs. He is flying a kite to see if somewhere in the PL/FL coffers there isn't a few bob to help them through. Has to be worth a go in his position but having got the players to defer some of their wages until the end of the season he has another option to return to and not pay them at all for two months if short term he needs to plug a gap.
What matters now is not the Profit and Loss Sheet but simple Cashflow and if you look at it there is not a great deal that they absolutely have to pay out in the next two months................
Don't pay wages, use volunteers for matchdays, no programmes, travel on the day of matches so no hotels................ discount home tickets to generate cash sales and sell tickets for away matches and pocket the cash to meet the day to day costs like laundry and coach fares............................... Job done!
Seriously, unless the administrator applies to the court for the club to go into liquidation there is no way that it will happen before the end of the season.
How likely is that to happen? IMO not at all. If the administrator really felt that the club was unsalvageably insolvent then he should not have been talking about his concerns today but should have used his time to go before the court to put them into liquidation. It is not in any other creditor's interest from either a revenue or PR viewpoint to put them into liquidation.
What the administrator has actually done is to state very publicly that they need additional help to survive beyond the end of the season/through the summer when there is limited revenue but little less in the way of costs. He is flying a kite to see if somewhere in the PL/FL coffers there isn't a few bob to help them through. Has to be worth a go in his position but having got the players to defer some of their wages until the end of the season he has another option to return to and not pay them at all for two months if short term he needs to plug a gap.
What matters now is not the Profit and Loss Sheet but simple Cashflow and if you look at it there is not a great deal that they absolutely have to pay out in the next two months................
Don't pay wages, use volunteers for matchdays, no programmes, travel on the day of matches so no hotels................ discount home tickets to generate cash sales and sell tickets for away matches and pocket the cash to meet the day to day costs like laundry and coach fares............................... Job done!
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u'vebeenamexed
Whateverhappenedto.......
You need to do this again with a games played column to truly appreciate the disappearance of Pompey (44 games would be a completed season) - please.
SK1NT
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hopefully they will keep it simple and let them fold after the season... 
u'vebeenamexed
Whateverhappenedto.......
Couldn't Pompey draft in supporters to play their remaining games ?
brightn'ove
cringe
can't they accept their points this season and forfeit the remaining games? would result in definite relegation and they could sort them selves out in the next season?
imo f***'em, they should go bust.
imo f***'em, they should go bust.
severnside gull
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players aren't an issue - they will stay and play if only to be in the shop window for a club for next season. Even if they are not being paid at all where else can they go?
u'vebeenamexed
Whateverhappenedto.......
No. I want to see that fat chap with no shirt and large hat and bell playing upfront for them a week Saturday.