[Albion] Will the awful showing at Everton force action in the transfer window?

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

No possible answer to this abstract emotional oratory nonsense, however I believe that the club knows what it is doing and that it will be a bumpy road to a greater future. As I read your post, panic and anger towards the club and Tony Bloom (for not investing in your Hollywoodesque soul corrupting striker) is the correct and "thougthful" perspective? Its silly. The club is trying to do something special and needs support but some people refuse to see anything except for the latest result. The "need more fancy players" shit, what right do people have to demand these things?

An absolutely laughable post by possibly the most arrogant person to ever contribute to this forum, who also happens to have never watched us live, and only started to follow us since Graham Potter arrived.
For someone who holds their own opinion in such high regard, whilst being thoroughly dismissive of others, you’re doing a spectacular job of completely missing the point. You’re not reading any anger in my posts, it’s frustration, frustration at watching us make rudimentary mistakes both defensively and offensively. There also isn’t really much of a cry for “Hollywoodesque” signings, those are your words and quite frankly they’re posted without foundation. Most people are looking at our threadbare striking options, it’s apparent to most that those options are incredibly limited, as of now Maupay is realistically our only Premier League striker, Connolly is a work in progress, Zeqiri? **** knows, but tradition suggests he might not make the leap from the Swiss 2nd division to the Premier League straight away. Again, I’ll reiterate, though I’m sure you’ll happily misquote me, there’s not much call for superstar striker, just an honest backup or alternative to Maupay, someone like Josh King from Bournemouth would cost a modest fee, we’re not exactly calling for Cavani.
Defensively, considering the amount of soft goals we’ve shipped from set pieces and crosses it’s not unfair for our fans to question what on Earth is going on.
Finally, considering how superior you believe your understanding to be, how is it possible that you don’t appreciate a very simple rule in football, fans of a team will always be upset when their team loses, maybe if you had a team of your own to follow and had any kind of emotional relationship with them maybe you’d understand.

 

[Rinkmaster]

An absolutely laughable post by possibly the most arrogant person to ever contribute to this forum, who also happens to have never watched us live, and only started to follow us since Graham Potter arrived.
For someone who holds their own opinion in such high regard, whilst being thoroughly dismissive of others, you’re doing a spectacular job of completely missing the point. You’re not reading any anger in my posts, it’s frustration, frustration at watching us make rudimentary mistakes both defensively and offensively. There also isn’t really much of a cry for “Hollywoodesque” signings, those are your words and quite frankly they’re posted without foundation. Most people are looking at our threadbare striking options, it’s apparent to most that those options are incredibly limited, as of now Maupay is realistically our only Premier League striker, Connolly is a work in progress, Zeqiri? **** knows, but tradition suggests he might not make the leap from the Swiss 2nd division to the Premier League straight away. Again, I’ll reiterate, though I’m sure you’ll happily misquote me, there’s not much call for superstar striker, just an honest backup or alternative to Maupay, someone like Josh King from Bournemouth would cost a modest fee, we’re not exactly calling for Cavani.
Defensively, considering the amount of soft goals we’ve shipped from set pieces and crosses it’s not unfair for our fans to question what on Earth is going on.
Finally, considering how superior you believe your understanding to be, how is it possible that you don’t appreciate a very simple rule in football, fans of a team will always be upset when their team loses, maybe if you had a team of your own to follow and had any kind of emotional relationship with them maybe you’d understand.

Totally agree

 

[DJ NOBO]

What is this ‘blueprint’ then?

Do share.


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Were you watching yesterday because it was pretty obvious?
Double up on lamptey.
Bully the midfield.
Get plenty of crosses in ,as we can’t defend them right now.

Nothing that’s can be fixed and on a good day we can take teams apart. Got to stop gifting goals though.

 

[R. Slicker]

No, he’s not saying that you see it from a “sober perspective“, he’s saying that you see it from a completely different perspective to the rest of us because you aren’t one of us. You don’t have the emotional connection to the club that the rest of us do. It’s easy for you to type thoughtless comments because when all is said and done you’ll log out of NSC one day and never come back, you’ll stop watching our games and will stop checking our scores, the rest of us have an emotional bond with the club which is non negotiable, it’s worth remembering that the next time you feel the need to patronise people who get pissed off about conceding 4 sloppy goals in a game.

That seems ridiculously harsh in my opinion, I believe I have an emotional connection to the club, having watched for decades but I tend to agree with swansman, who seems to understand where we are and should be as a football club, rather than the same old posters who constantly moan whenever we are beaten. We were terrible defensively yesterday but we aren't going to be every game.
In my opinion, we are looking a decent premier team but we will get caught out by teams with hundreds of millions to spend.

 

[MJsGhost]

The new centreback arrangement hasn't gelled yet.

Webster and Dunk have gone backwards from last season and White is new.

Plenty of mork to be done by Potter and the coaches.

I don’t think we can read too much into it when the conditions were that wet and Mindy

 

[Super Steve Earle]

I don’t think we can read too much into it when the conditions were that wet and Mindy

Too late. I already played the Mork and Mindy joke card. Nanu Nanu.

 

[Justice]

No possible answer to this abstract emotional oratory nonsense, however I believe that the club knows what it is doing and that it will be a bumpy road to a greater future. As I read your post, panic and anger towards the club and Tony Bloom (for not investing in your Hollywoodesque soul corrupting striker) is the correct and "thougthful" perspective? Its silly. The club is trying to do something special and needs support but some people refuse to see anything except for the latest result. The "need more fancy players" shit, what right do people have to demand these things?

 

[ewe2]

I guess ....if it had been at home v say Fulham,the point that is being made would have more credibility.

 

[Justice]

Reading over this thread I guess some are happy plodding along believing all is rosy in the garden because we beat Newcastle, let’s remember we beat Watford early doors last season away and it had little bearing on the rest of the season.

Other's are scratching our heads wondering why we didn’t strengthen in the areas we desperately needed to and generally add a little more quality to what we already have

The club announced they are aiming for top ten over a few seasons, on a middling championship budget I think we should probably scrap that idea.

 

[rogersix]

Reading over this thread I guess some are happy plodding along believing all is rosy in the garden because we beat Newcastle, let’s remember we beat Watford early doors last season away and it had little bearing on the rest of the season.

Other's are scratching our heads wondering why we didn’t strengthen in the areas we desperately needed to and generally add a little more quality to what we already have

The club announced they are aiming for top ten over a few seasons, on a middling championship budget I think we should probably scrap that idea.

only uncle tone knows, and he keeps his cards close to his chest

we, as fans, have no right to know, nor, to a £40M striker

 

[goldstone]

Were you watching yesterday because it was pretty obvious?
Double up on lamptey.
Bully the midfield.
Get plenty of crosses in ,as we can’t defend them right now.

Nothing that’s can be fixed and on a good day we can take teams apart. Got to stop gifting goals though.

Incidentally, anyone know why Lamptey was taken off? Not playing his best, but not much worse than the rest of the defence.

 

[Ethelwulf]

Incidentally, anyone know why Lamptey was taken off? Not playing his best, but not much worse than the rest of the defence.

Tightness in his hamstring felt at half time so subbed

 

[forumwayseagull]

Very happy with everything, just hope the confidence doesn't start to desert us with not winning. Remember this is the promised land no one expected miracles did they

But this is also our 4th consecutive year in PL. I would have thought we would at least be competitive budget wise with lower half of the table..however this season we have done nothing more than remove 7 first team players and replace them with a free transfer and a RB for less than a million. This hardly screams out of a team pushing on. Every other team around us has similar C19 issues, yet we seem to have taken it to a new level.

Once we get a few injuries/ suspensions we will have a problem. GP gas already started excuses of a young inexperienced side yesterday so that sort of tells you what the common response will be

I’m sad to say, but I fear we could be this seasons Norwich city. Ie we play attractive football ( like them), we hardly spent any money in the TW ( nor did they on promotion)and ultimately like Norwich that could be our downfall. I hope not, but the similarities and warning signs are there to see.

 

[southstandandy]

But this is also our 4th consecutive year in PL. I would have thought we would at least be competitive budget wise with lower half of the table..however this season we have done nothing more than remove 7 first team players and replace them with a free transfer and a RB for less than a million. This hardly screams out of a team pushing on. Every other team around us has similar C19 issues, yet we seem to have taken it to a new level.

Once we get a few injuries/ suspensions we will have a problem. GP gas already started excuses of a young inexperienced side yesterday so that sort of tells you what the common response will be

I’m sad to say, but I fear we could be this seasons Norwich city. Ie we play attractive football ( like them), we hardly spent any money in the TW ( nor did they on promotion)and ultimately like Norwich that could be our downfall. I hope not, but the similarities and warning signs are there to see.

But how many of these other clubs (like Villa) are just piling up debt upon debt and relying on their rich owners to prop them up, and taking huge risks in doing so?

I know FFP has pretty much gone out of the window (especially after what happened at Man City) but if Tony doesn't want to bank roll expensive signings off his own back, who are we to argue.

If any of us on here have a spare few million to give to the club to buy a few more players, I'm sure Tony would be more than happy to hear from you. I certainly for one don't want us to become the next Portsmouth and risk the future of our club by over stretching the clubs finances for short term gain.

 

[Weststander]

But how many of these other clubs (like Villa) are just piling up debt upon debt and relying on their rich owners to prop them up, and taking huge risks in doing so?

I know FFP has pretty much gone out of the window (especially after what happened at Man City) but if Tony doesn't want to bank roll expensive signings off his own back, who are we to argue.

If any of us on here have a spare few million to give to the club to buy a few more players, I'm sure Tony would be more than happy to hear from you. I certainly for one don't want us to become the next Portsmouth and risk the future of our club by over stretching the clubs finances for short term gain.

Regarding Villa, SheffU, Everton, Leeds and all the usual suspects net spending massively, unfortunately for you and I, it’s not interest bearing bank debt. Putting their futures in jeopardy.

They all have immensely wealthy owners funding the financial doping.

Chuck enough money at something and under the law of averages eventually you’ll secure PL safety.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

That seems ridiculously harsh in my opinion, I believe I have an emotional connection to the club, having watched for decades but I tend to agree with swansman, who seems to understand where we are and should be as a football club, rather than the same old posters who constantly moan whenever we are beaten. We were terrible defensively yesterday but we aren't going to be every game.
In my opinion, we are looking a decent premier team but we will get caught out by teams with hundreds of millions to spend.

Similar to Swansman, I think you’re missing the general points that are being made. The complaints aren’t because we were beaten by Chelsea, Man Utd and Everton, it’s due to the same catastrophic mistakes that have been made in each of these games, we’re horribly naive at defending set pieces and crosses and have shipped a lot of goals unnecessarily, it doesn’t take a genius manager to attack those frailties, someone like Mitrovic will have a field day against us.
The other main complaint is about a lack of a striker, again, most people are realistic and are not demanding a top shelf goal scorer, just a recognised striker who has a level of experience in a competitive division somewhere. If there is no funds available then so be it, but it’s an enormous gamble to try and get through an entire Premier League season relying on Maupay.
Finally, most NSC users have roamed this forum long enough to know the routine, when we lose the usual suspects pop up and post their usual diatribe, you know it’s going to be there so either don’t read it, laugh at it or just flat out ignore it. Some of the posts and threads in the last 20hrs have been abysmal, but that’s always the case after a loss, but they’ve somehow overshadowed the actual concerns about lack of squad depth (strikers) and our catastrophic defending, those are genuine talking points with valid concerns.

 

[forumwayseagull]

Regarding Villa, SheffU, Everton, Leeds and all the usual suspects net spending massively, unfortunately for you and I, it’s not interest bearing bank debt. Putting their futures in jeopardy.

They all have immensely wealthy owners funding the financial doping.

Chuck enough money at something and under the law of averages eventually you’ll secure PL safety.

Yes I agree to an extent, however based on the mass player exodus, money from AK etc I would have still thought we had funds to buy one striker. As it appears though we can’t even do that, making being competitive over a long season a bit of a pipe dream. And whilst I never want to experience the Albion scenario of the 1990s again, I would like to see some balance re some sensible recruitment to give us options that actually scare an opponent. Based on our current strikers, (2)‘where are the options? What happens with lack of form? Injury? Suspension..,?
I’m just a little concerned that through this window we have weakened the core, lost experienced heads, and tried to fix things on the cheap...similar to the SH debacle.,

 

[bobbysmith01]

Our fans are hilarious, qualifying for Europe a couple of weeks back, now doom and gloom. We are not far away from being a good side, cut out the mistakes and we will be ok.


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[Weststander]

Yes I agree to an extent, however based on the mass player exodus, money from AK etc I would have still thought we had funds to buy one striker. As it appears though we can’t even do that, making being competitive over a long season a bit of a pipe dream. And whilst I never want to experience the Albion scenario of the 1990s again, I would like to see some balance re some sensible recruitment to give us options that actually scare an opponent. Based on our current strikers, (2)‘where are the options? What happens with lack of form? Injury? Suspension..,?
I’m just a little concerned that through this window we have weakened the core, lost experienced heads, and tried to fix things on the cheap...similar to the SH debacle.,

I agree with you about the playing side. If we don’t get an additional striker in tomorrow, Maupay must stay fit for the season ahead.

 

[Weststander]

Our fans are hilarious, qualifying for Europe a couple of weeks back, now doom and gloom. We are not far away from being a good side, cut out the mistakes and we will be ok.


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I don’t think the Europa League fantasists were the fans who worry.