Will Self destroys Jamie Oliver

[Mr Blobby]

Other than 9 critically acclaimed novels, short listed Man Booker Prize, award winning short stories, journalist for the Guardian, Observer, The New York Times, London Review of Books, The Evening Standard, The Times, The New Statesmen.

Not bad for having done 'f*** all to deserve it'....

Critically acclaimed by other idiots like Self. I also find his newspaper articles pretty boring, but as you say its all about opinions. Everytime I see him on TV I end up turning it off as he sneers his way to putting everyone else down. I would like him to take a critical look at himself.

Oliver is making a difference with what he is doing (including the 5 chain employing troubled youngsters and the school lunch campaign), Self is just doing a job that makes NO difference to anyone except to himself as he builds up his importance by being a moaning, critical idiot!

Anyway I had an essay at school that was critically acclaimed at school. They all claimed it was rubbish but hey I know that not what you meant but who cares!

 

[Dave the OAP]

I met and "chatted" with will self at a recording of HIGNFY a couple of years ago. He came across as a very depressed and self obsessed person.

Two of the other people involved in the conversation walked away from him leaving just me to try end egage him in conversation. I was rescued by ian hislop's wife which was a turn up. Her book about spinalonga was my favourite book and when self started to trash it, we both edged away!

 

[Westdene Wonder]

Jamie has nothing to worry about, how many copies are sold of New Statesman?
Self seems to be very envious of Jamie`s success.

 

[Hungry Joe]

When my youngest niece was five she once ran around the house screaming and hitting things. When my sister stopped her and asked her calmly what she was doing she replied "Jamie Oliver's in my head, and I can't stop killing people". I think Will Self would get on well with her. If I have to chose, as seems to be the case on this thread, who I prefer out of the two it's Will, 'cos he's interesting.

 

[life on mars 73]

Just re-read the article.....there's more than a touch of metropolitan snobbery in there, it oozes contempt for upwardly mobile working class people. And I'd love to know what Self means by the "eternal soul" of our culture. Can anyone offer an explanation ?

Still intrigued to know what the "fat-tongued" jibe is getting at.

 

[smeariestbat]

egon from disneys 'rattatouille', based on Will Self?

 

[Notters]

i dont who who this man is, 1 look at his picture was enough to know that i wont read his article, he looks like a cock, therefore, he is a cock

Agreed. If we're gonna go down the "who looks most like a cock" route, Will Self could compete in the Olympics.

 

[Billy the Fish]

The name NewStatesman always put me off, scared me in the sense that it would fizz over my head. Only when a chap, in the year above me at school, started writing for them, did I read it and I'm glad I did.

Seems to be the season for Celeb vs Celeb.

I read an open letter from Robert Webb to Russell Brand on there this very morning.

http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/10/russell-choosing-vote-most-british-kind-revolution-there

Can't agree with any of that. What Russell Brand was saying transcends arguing about spending a few million on sure-start centres, minimum wage etc. All of that is small fry and a smokescreen, we all waste our time arguing about what pocket change is being spent on while corporations take over the world.

Robert Webb has just proved that he can't think beyond the politics bubble that we're locked into at the moment, and he's spectacularly missed the point that Brand was making.

 

[Ceej]

Self (funny that) can be very funny. His appearances on QT etc are always worth a look. But he is bi-polar or something, surely? His addictions, blowing hot and cold, unpredictability, moodswings blah blah blah just make him hard to love. What a fricking nightmare. I always hope he's going to be on one of his uppers because then his cutting remarks and put downs tend to be more valid and fair.

Oh, and Jamie Oliver is pretty much a decent chap it would seem. Zinc chip buckets and chopping boards are a bit grim though.

 

[MICK PATCHAM]

Oh goody ,after that buffoon Russell Brand ....another millionaire socialist writing for the new statesman...the hypocricy of these rich twats knows no ironic bounds.

 

[Hungry Joe]

His addictions, blowing hot and cold, unpredictability, moodswings blah blah blah just make him hard to love.

To me that makes him more endearing, certainly more human.

 

[Hungry Joe]

Oh goody ,after that buffoon Russell Brand ....another millionaire socialist writing for the new statesman...the hypocricy of these rich twats knows no ironic bounds.

Serious question; why does being wealthy preclude you from being a genuine socialist?

 

[melias shoes]

Self by name, Self by nature. What a cock that man is.
One cock destroying another.

Is correct.

 

[melias shoes]

Agreed. If we're gonna go down the "who looks most like a cock" route, Will Self could compete in the Olympics.

Gold medallist.

 

[BLOCK F]

Self is a parody, an ex smack head espousing the virtues of socialism despite having had a privileged upbringing himself and sending his own kids to private school.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/self-admits-taking-heroin-on-pms-jet-1268111.html

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/im-a...y-son-is-going-to-private-school-6898981.html

The reality is that Self is the thin end of the wedge, once he attains any form of credibility before we know where we are we will have the pissy pant earnest types holding out the incoherent narcissistic ramblings of Self's fellow ex skag fiend (but less privileged) Russell Brand as some kind if prophetic wisdom............at that point the sane in this country may just as well turn the lights out and smother their children.

Cunning fergus,well put!

 

[Hungry Joe]

Cunning fergus,well put!

It's not well put though is it? It's just the same kind of lazy, sneering writing that Self has indulged in here, the difference being that Self is making a valid point, albeit not very well.

 

[Hamilton]

It's not well put though is it? It's just the same kind of lazy, sneering writing that Self has indulged in here, the difference being that Self is making a valid point, albeit not very well.

Well put. With the exception that Self makes a point, but the vehicle he is channeling it through is very poorly chosen.

He's a clever chap, but he has made a fool of himself with his chosen target.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Reads a bit like one of these identikit 'why Brighton is the worst place In the world to live' articles that some dreary fresher puts out every autumn in one or other of the town's shiny 'style guides' in a doomed attempt to establish themselves as an original thinker.

 

[LargeHadronZugzwang]

Went in the Jamie Oliver Brighton shop recently and was told I could only buy bottled beer if I drank it in the shop. Not sure they'll be getting much of my custom in future. After reading that article, as ever, Self's invective seemed a bit discombobulating, no idea what he's going on about half the time. Really enjoy it when he discusses his walks, then again, such ranting doesn't really achieve much. Certainly, Oliver's campaign to improve school dinners was a worthy exercise. To me the whole thing is handbags at dawn.

What really grates, and is especially worth adding fuel to the iconoclastic fire, is when a witty libertine pop star will only publish his biography unless it is accorded the status of 'classic'. What sort of self absorbed pillock does that?

 

[D1AX]

Self destruction? How to waste an adequate command of the English language.