[Albion] Will Maupay still have a future with Potter after this?

[Insel affe]

At least we have Andone to fall back on.....

 

[maltaseagull]

Shame Maupay couldn’t demonstrate the same levels of respect that he spoke about only a few weeks ago in relation to social media.

I’m paraphrasing here, but “footballers are only human, we make mistakes and are always trying”.

Doesn’t yesterday’s referee also fall into that category?

Yes, social media abuse is unacceptable but why wasn’t Jon Moss shown the same level of understanding and respect from Maupay, that he himself demanded during his post match interview only a few short weeks ago?

Why is Mr Maupay okay to hurl dogs abuse at Jon Moss on a Sunday afternoon, but unable to deal with supporters critiquing his own performance? To pre-empt any counter argument on that line which so often gets crossed on social media, I’d say Maupay himself crossed it yesterday.

Yes, it might have been in person and not over social media but what’s the difference?

Smacks of hypocrisy.


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I sort of agree but the ref didn't make just one mistake. He made several and seemingly all in Wolves favour!

 

[Icy Gull]

Shame Maupay couldn’t demonstrate the same levels of respect that he spoke about only a few weeks ago in relation to social media.

I’m paraphrasing here, but “footballers are only human, we make mistakes and are always trying”.

Doesn’t yesterday’s referee also fall into that category?

Yes, social media abuse is unacceptable but why wasn’t Jon Moss shown the same level of understanding and respect from Maupay, that he himself demanded during his post match interview only a few short weeks ago?

Why is Mr Maupay okay to hurl dogs abuse at Jon Moss on a Sunday afternoon, but unable to deal with supporters critiquing his own performance? To pre-empt any counter argument on that line which so often gets crossed on social media, I’d say Maupay himself crossed it yesterday.

Yes, it might have been in person and not over social media but what’s the difference?

Smacks of hypocrisy.


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The ref was a homer and Maupay was fouled a number of times and got nothing.

The ref also failed to give a nailed on penalty. Yes Neal was wrong to have a go but I doubt he threatened to come around and kill the ref’s family. There’s a difference to me

No excuse though but would I prefer a player who shrugged his shoulders and walked off not really caring? No.

Being so out of form probably contributed to Maupay’s behaviour but again that’s no excuse but I do get why he was wound up and angry.

It’s clear that Potter likes what Maupay brings even when he’s not scoring so I don’t see calm, collected GP binning him. We’ll know soon enough though.

 

[Seasidesage]

Andone's last chance maybe to show he can cut it at this level and if he comes in and scores a few than Neal has no one to blame but himself.

As to selling him though, he's our top scorer plays most weeks and works extremely hard even though he is a support striker by trade. If we sell him are we likely to find better for the money? Given our track record on strikers I not sure we will? We are going to lose players this summer, Biss maybe others do we really want to lose a talented if frustrating scorer, he doesn't score as many as he should but his record over the last two seasons isn't that bad either. The sending off is petulant and I have no doubt the club will fine him but sell?

If and it is a big if, we can find a genuine alternative striker who leads the line and can take the strain a little, we then have two good support strikers in Maupay and Wellbeck who can provide the back up needed. Maupay needs to understand he is damaging his own career with this nonsense but whether people like it or not we don't currently have a better option.

 

[zamora the merrier]

Obviously unprofessional and stupid - no excuses. Done to death on here but he simply isn't good enough for club seeking to be a top 10 club. Bench at best next season although I would try and sell him

 

[brighton_tom]

As the season went on I was slowly starting to think that if the club cant afford much on transfer fees in the summer then maybe a strike force of Maupay, Welbeck, and Andone could be enough, but its incident like this that prove someone new is needed. Maupay is unreliable, Andone is yet to prove his fitness, and as good as Welbeck has been he's never been a 15-20 goal a season man. It needs to be Welbeck, new signing, and whichever of Maupay or Andone can prove themselves fitness/mentality wise over the summer. There's enough scope in potential outgoing transfers (Ryan, Propper, Jahanbaksh) for us to raise some cash towards a new striker.

 

[sydney]

we are 95 % safe .....just give Tau a go ffs.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Just 6 players in the Premier League have scored 15 goals or more.

The others have between 10 and 14. Maupay has 8 so he isn't that far behind.

We need other players in the team to score as it's a team game and putting all the pressure on one player doesn't help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers

 

[southstandandy]

At least we have Andone to fall back on.....

And Gyokeres!

 

[Milano]

We didn’t need to sign Maupay, we already had that type of player in Andone (who I rate as a better player).
The Maupay money needed to go on a replacement for Murray - strong, quick, can lead the line - that should have been Locadia but despite all the physical attributes he had a shit and lazy attitude.

For me Maupay is the striker version of Ryan - fans speak about passion and desire as their main attributes - but talent and ability wise they’re EPL squad players at best. I don’t want rid but I truly hope Maupay is not our main striker come August.

 

[Springal]

Just 6 players in the Premier League have scored 15 goals or more.

The others have between 10 and 14. Maupay has 8 so he isn't that far behind.

We need other players in the team to score as it's a team game and putting all the pressure on one player doesn't help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers

This is what I keep saying....

Yes Maupay should have a few more. Webster & Burn should have more. Bissouma should have more. Lallana should have more. Trossard should have more.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

This is what I keep saying....

Yes Maupay should have a few more. Webster & Burn should have more. Bissouma should have more. Lallana should have more. Trossard should have more.

Looking at the top 20 scorers, the successful teams have more than one player named.

 

[Audax]

18 goals in 2 seasons. Not to bad for a debutant. Glenn Murray got 37 in 7. Admittedly only we gave him a good run so 26 in 3 seasons.

Yep, let's ignore the fact that Murray's seasons in the PL with us he was often playing isolated in a Hughton team that wasn't producing anywhere near as many chances as we have this season. Meanwhile Maupay's been playing in a Potter team that generates plenty of chances, and Maupay's been missing them. And yes, all of our attacking players have been letting us down. But at the end of the day, it is very reasonable to assume that the Murray we had in 17-18 (14 in 38 apps across all comps) and 18-19 (15 in 42) [Total 29 across 2 seasons] would have put a lot more in the net than Maupay has this season. I'll go out on a limb and suggest the Murray of 17-18 and 18-19 would have been pushing 20 this season.

Yes, Maupay looked good last season - 10 goals in a debut season was a decent return, especially as the team was still adapting from Hughton style to Potter style. But this season? He should have been pushing 15 at least by now, but instead is stuck on 8. And in many of those matches where he's missed golden opportunities, those misses have come back to haunt us.

 

[portslade seagull]

It's his goals scored from open play which is disappointing. Never seems set or knows what to do hence the wild lashes he makes

 

[sydney]

i think the crux of the problem is that we have presented as a far better team this season and therefore other teams play a lot tighter against us and give us less space around their area .....thus , clear chances are fewer , lets face it if NM had buried even half the ones he's missed most of them would have been worldies and we would be top 6 .....but still you'd get them moaning , whining cants .

 

[Springal]

Yep, let's ignore the fact that Murray's seasons in the PL with us he was often playing isolated in a Hughton team that wasn't producing anywhere near as many chances as we have this season. Meanwhile Maupay's been playing in a Potter team that generates plenty of chances, and Maupay's been missing them. And yes, all of our attacking players have been letting us down. But at the end of the day, it is very reasonable to assume that the Murray we had in 17-18 (14 in 38 apps across all comps) and 18-19 (15 in 42) [Total 29 across 2 seasons] would have put a lot more in the net than Maupay has this season. I'll go out on a limb and suggest the Murray of 17-18 and 18-19 would have been pushing 20 this season.

Yes, Maupay looked good last season - 10 goals in a debut season was a decent return, especially as the team was still adapting from Hughton style to Potter style. But this season? He should have been pushing 15 at least by now, but instead is stuck on 8. And in many of those matches where he's missed golden opportunities, those misses have come back to haunt us.

But it's all hypothetical guess work. I reckon Leon Knight could have bagged 15 this season, but none of us really know. You don't even know Murray would be in the positions that Maupay got in. Perhaps he would have if it was 2012/2013 based on his link ups with Zaha but....

 

[giveusfalmerplease]

did anyone listen to Glenn Murrays analysis on the MOTD live? He gave a really good account of what our strikers are doing wrong and maybe why the goals are coming. They focussed mainly on Welbecks positioning whereby he was accused of "trying too hard" and not being selfish enough, which i thought pretty much sums up Maupay too. I was quite impressed with the piece and they showed a few clips where our strikers got into the box but maybe went left instead of right or moved towards the ball instead of standing by the goalie putting him under pressure. Quite fascinating really.

 

[blue-shifted]

did anyone listen to Glenn Murrays analysis on the MOTD live? He gave a really good account of what our strikers are doing wrong and maybe why the goals are coming. They focussed mainly on Welbecks positioning whereby he was accused of "trying too hard" and not being selfish enough, which i thought pretty much sums up Maupay too. I was quite impressed with the piece and they showed a few clips where our strikers got into the box but maybe went left instead of right or moved towards the ball instead of standing by the goalie putting him under pressure. Quite fascinating really.

Yeh, Glenn Murray thinks like a striker. Welbeck thinks like a link player. In the move you're referring to, Welbeck was putting himself in a position to play another pass rather than score himself.

What Glenn does / did is not complicated. Players like Wood, Ulloa do the same. Back post strikers. "Get in there" being the mantra.

We don't have anyone with that goalscoring instinct of where to be which explains our plight. Nobody is ever trying to get in the channel between defence and keeper they all wait for cut backs, which are harder to score from than tap ins

I believe Maupay could carve himself out a decent top level career as being a winger, or at least a deeper wider forward. Doubt he'll ever be a prolific scorer at this level, but that's not to say he can't contribute.

 

[albionalex]

Just 6 players in the Premier League have scored 15 goals or more.

The others have between 10 and 14. Maupay has 8 so he isn't that far behind.

We need other players in the team to score as it's a team game and putting all the pressure on one player doesn't help.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/top-scorers

He's about par for the course with the other non 'big 6' players.

 

[Eric Youngs Contact Lens]

Shame Maupay couldn’t demonstrate the same levels of respect that he spoke about only a few weeks ago in relation to social media.

I’m paraphrasing here, but “footballers are only human, we make mistakes and are always trying”.

Doesn’t yesterday’s referee also fall into that category?

Yes, social media abuse is unacceptable but why wasn’t Jon Moss shown the same level of understanding and respect from Maupay, that he himself demanded during his post match interview only a few short weeks ago?

Why is Mr Maupay okay to hurl dogs abuse at Jon Moss on a Sunday afternoon, but unable to deal with supporters critiquing his own performance? To pre-empt any counter argument on that line which so often gets crossed on social media, I’d say Maupay himself crossed it yesterday.

Yes, it might have been in person and not over social media but what’s the difference?

Smacks of hypocrisy.

I understand the sentiment I think you're expressing here, but I don't think the comments Maupay refers to, social media/abuse as part of an "official" launch of an initiative right after the Sheff Utd match, can really be classified as "supporters critiquing his own performance". . I don't defend Maupay's reaction on Saturday particularly, but the circumstances are different.