Wikileaks is slowly being taken out by the establishment

[Biscuit]

Wikileaks have gone to far now.





They've published Santas "naughty and nice" list.

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Assange or Wikileaks aren't the source of the infomation of course, someone just passes him the info and he takes the risk to out it on the net. If he's taken out there'll be someone else who will do it.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

I'm all for transparency, but all this leaking of documents has done aboslutely nothing. It's like letting eveyone see your eMails when you've been talking about them. There is nothing there that the respective goverments wouldn't already know, it is just "chatter" amongst diplomats. I think he has just done it because he can, with no point. A complete waste of time as least and potential danger to lives at worst.

What has anybody learnt from them ? Pr Andrew is a bit boorish (wowser), and China think NK should calm down a bit. Big deal.

 

[folkestonesgull]

the plot thickens...

Its like a real life steig larsson book. I disagree with the above post. The way the US in particular has reacted...completely contradicts what they say they defend.

WikiLeaks US embassy cables: live updates | News | guardian.co.uk
Wikileaks: Julian Assange's 2 one-night stands spark a worldwide hunt | Mail Online

 

[Biscuit]

Military dictators - you get bail. Accused rapist who runs a website - you do not. Ha! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/204398.stm

 

[Simster]

I'm all for transparency, but all this leaking of documents has done aboslutely nothing. It's like letting eveyone see your eMails when you've been talking about them. There is nothing there that the respective goverments wouldn't already know, it is just "chatter" amongst diplomats. I think he has just done it because he can, with no point. A complete waste of time as least and potential danger to lives at worst.

What has anybody learnt from them ? Pr Andrew is a bit boorish (wowser), and China think NK should calm down a bit. Big deal.

Well I thought the China titbit was *very* interesting. It is said that China could be persuaded that a unified Korea under a South Korea government might be in their interests. Considering China is supposed to be the only ally North Korea has, I'd have thought that was big news.

Mind you, my first thought was that this news has been leaked deliberately. The last thing the despots running North Korea would want is to fall out with China.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

The danger here is that our Govt will be soft enough to allow him to be sent to that 'Father of Democracy' the USA !!

 

[El Presidente]

The rape charge is out of the same school of tactics used to try and smear some of the more vocal critics of the illegal and immoral invasion of Iraq.

I'll vouch for you Tom, anyway, she was clearly gagging for it.

 

[steward 433]

Military dictators - you get bail. Accused rapist who runs a website - you do not. Ha! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/204398.stm

Standard for anyone of no fixed abode.

 

[The Ringleader Returns!]

The person who runs Wikileaks has a "poison pill", A bundle of info he hadn't released, if they keep trying to shut it down then he is going to publish it. That is when the real shit will hit the fan.

 

[readingstockport]

Military dictators - you get bail. Accused rapist who runs a website - you do not. Ha! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/204398.stm

And even worse he's not accused of rape. He is accused of having consensual sex without a condom, despite the fact that in one case he did in fact use one but it split. See the daily mail story.

And if the mail is resorting to telling the truth for once then something SERIOUSLY stinks about this whole allegation.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Well I thought the China titbit was *very* interesting. It is said that China could be persuaded that a unified Korea under a South Korea government might be in their interests. Considering China is supposed to be the only ally North Korea has, I'd have thought that was big news.

Mind you, my first thought was that this news has been leaked deliberately. The last thing the despots running North Korea would want is to fall out with China.

Yes, that was intereting, but nothing that the foreign office wouldn't have known about already. I just don't see what it does by telling the man-in-the-street, apart from possibly China backing off from that stance so they don't look like they're softening.

 

[Seagull Stew]

I had some sympathy for them, going into these leaks. I don't think we should implicitly trust governments to do the right thing, and part of the information that they released was in the public interest (although I accept not all of it). However I think that the info released today was a big step over the line; there was no public interest at all in revealing the information, all its likely to do is increase our enemies awareness of strategically important sites.

I'm all for transparency, but all this leaking of documents has done aboslutely nothing. It's like letting eveyone see your eMails when you've been talking about them. There is nothing there that the respective goverments wouldn't already know, it is just "chatter" amongst diplomats. I think he has just done it because he can, with no point. A complete waste of time as least and potential danger to lives at worst.

What has anybody learnt from them ? Pr Andrew is a bit boorish (wowser), and China think NK should calm down a bit. Big deal.

Isn't that the point though. If Wikileaks started to choose which documents to leak and which not to leak on the basis that it might or might not be in the public interest then it can't really claim political impartiality.

Granted, some are being held back, but only as an "insurance measure".

 

[Hercules Rockerfeller]

The danger here is that our Govt will be soft enough to allow him to be sent to that 'Father of Democracy' the USA !!

I'd wager we will, seeing as the US will claim their reasons for wanting to put him on trial are more serious. Although, if we don't, Sweden probably will anyway. Either way, he's screwed, which is how this all started!

 

[Stoo82]

They are actually quite selective of what information they release. I don't fully trust any Government. I quite like keeping them on their toes. Good on Wikileaks.

I agree with you on this.

Its our duty to not trust the government.

 

[severnside gull]

And if the daily mail is resorting to telling the truth for once...................

Don't be silly!

 

[somerset]

the plot thickens...

The way the US in particular has reacted...completely contradicts what they say they defend.

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Really?!?!?.... like the list of all these sensitive sites that are now in real focus for any nutter who chooses to strap some semtex to themselves and do the deed?.... Lets hope none of your relatives work in or near some of these UK companies or sites,... eh?..... or is that different somehow?....

 

[Ninja Elephant]

Someone was telling me earlier on that they've got some material on 9/11 that they're "sitting" on? That could be controversial.

 

[Biscuit]

Someone was telling me earlier on that they've got some material on 9/11 that they're "sitting" on? That could be controversial.

Something to do with emergency services pager intercepts, before the crash...

 

[Westdene Seagull]

Really?!?!?.... like the list of all these sensitive sites that are now in real focus for any nutter who chooses to strap some semtex to themselves and do the deed?.... Lets hope none of your relatives work in or near some of these UK companies or sites,... eh?..... or is that different somehow?....

You shouldn't swallow what the Americans say about these so called sensitive sites. Certainly the ones I've seen are easily findable with a telephone directory, a map or the internet. The Americans conveniently don't mention how technically advanced our enemies really are and how good they are at information gathering. I don't doubt for one minute that most of the information that has been released was already known by them.