Why are SCUM like this allowed to have kids ?

[Juan Albion]

How is that worth nine years, which of course he'll never come near serving?

He had better be watching his back 24/7.

 

[Yorkie]

He had better be watching his back 24/7.

That doesn't make me feel any better at all.
I feel like Trish. I have 3 grandchildren who are so precious to me.
I cannot even begin to understand how the health visitors and social workers missed this. They must be sacked immediately. They are not worthy to be considered to continue working looking after new borns.
The mother must take responsibility as well. If anyone had done that to my child I would have done something to them myself before running like hell.

 

[bhaexpress]

That doesn't make me feel any better at all.
I feel like Trish. I have 3 grandchildren who are so precious to me.
I cannot even begin to understand how the health visitors and social workers missed this. They must be sacked immediately. They are not worthy to be considered to continue working looking after new borns.
The mother must take responsibility as well. If anyone had done that to my child I would have done something to them myself before running like hell.

Whilst I'm not condoning the mother's lack of action Iwould hazard a guess that she was abused too and as such, probablt too terrified to stand up to this utter waste of humanity.

What I find so disgusting is that this low life will ever be allowed to walk free again let alone on less than nine years. I suspect he will end up on Rule 41 in prison which means he'll be segragated from the general prison population and lumped in with all the perverts. The sickening thing about that is that the rule 41 prisoners often get preferential treatment hard as that may be to believe.

 

[itszamora]

That doesn't make me feel any better at all.
I feel like Trish. I have 3 grandchildren who are so precious to me.
I cannot even begin to understand how the health visitors and social workers missed this. They must be sacked immediately. They are not worthy to be considered to continue working looking after new borns.
The mother must take responsibility as well. If anyone had done that to my child I would have done something to them myself before running like hell.

When you've tried your hand at social work then you can judge them, that ok? How would you like it if someone with no appropriate training, qualifications etc suddenly starts piping up that you should lose your job? Get off your high horse for once and realise that the only fault here lies with the utter who did what he did to that child.

 

[Beach Hut]

A real tragic story and is possibly a social statement endemic of what society can breed.

I really don't know where to begin with events like this as they are shocking beyond belief.

 

[FalmerforAll!**]

What a sick git!I hope he rots in hell and that he never gets to walk the streets again.His own child though, I mean,what a horrific mind he must have.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

I cannot even begin to understand how the health visitors and social workers missed this. They must be sacked immediately.

That's happened.

 

[Yorkie]

When you've tried your hand at social work then you can judge them, that ok? How would you like it if someone with no appropriate training, qualifications etc suddenly starts piping up that you should lose your job? Get off your high horse for once and realise that the only fault here lies with the utter who did what he did to that child.

As a mother and grandmother who has dealt with health visitors etc I feel perfectly 'qualified' to judge them.
So everyone who has felt angry about this terrible death is on a high horse?

 

[Yorkie]

That's happened.

Good.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

The problem with sacking social workers and health visitors is that it's too easy to blame the overworked individuals and too easy for the authorities that are supposed to intervene to escape censure, despite the fact that they are the people who overload their staff with too many difficult cases.

Badly handled cases like this simply discourage skillful professionals from remaining in their jobs.

 

[Juan Albion]

That doesn't make me feel any better at all.

It wasn't intended to make anyone feel better, and I don't agree with vigilante justice myself as it lowers the perpetrators to their victim's level. It was, however, a fact - he will have to watch his back, since I imagine his scalp would be considered a valuable trophy inside.

 

[bhaexpress]

The problem with sacking social workers and health visitors is that it's too easy to blame the overworked individuals and too easy for the authorities that are supposed to intervene to escape censure, despite the fact that they are the people who overload their staff with too many difficult cases.

Badly handled cases like this simply discourage skillful professionals from remaining in their jobs.

My former mother in law was a social worker and everything Lord B says is true. As I said earlier there's two sides to a story like this, its sadly not as simple and clear cut as some seem to think. Social workers are so often in a no win situation and they end up carrying the can for the failings of others that they have no control over.

 

[Yorkie]

The problem with sacking social workers and health visitors is that it's too easy to blame the overworked individuals and too easy for the authorities that are supposed to intervene to escape censure, despite the fact that they are the people who overload their staff with too many difficult cases.

Badly handled cases like this simply discourage skillful professionals from remaining in their jobs.

True but any health visitor denied access to a child for 3 months should have raised the alarm long before then.
They tend to target the wrong families (ie easier case loads)

 

[the full harris]

As a mother and grandmother who has dealt with health visitors etc I feel perfectly 'qualified' to judge them.
So everyone who has felt angry about this terrible death is on a high horse?

Oh come on Yorkie, whilst Sam's point may have come across rather agressively, he does have one. Social workers have a tough enough job as it is without people who have no knowledge of the actual situation having a go.

 

[chip]

I don't think you can blame the social workers when sick people do things like this. In reality, these sorts of hateful crimes are thankfully very rare. We would be up in arms if social workers interefered in the lives of every child and its isn't always obvious who the most vulnerable ones are. Things like this are always going to happen no matter what precautions or "measures" are "put in place".

As for these two "men" I hope that they suffer for the rest of eternity.

 

[Leekbrookgull]

Please when you retire tonight,say a little prayer.I will,the for his memory.

 

[veade]

a very slow painful death is best for him we all ought to que up and give him a good kicking

 

[cheltenhamgull]

That doesn't make me feel any better at all.
I feel like Trish. I have 3 grandchildren who are so precious to me.
I cannot even begin to understand how the health visitors and social workers missed this. They must be sacked immediately. They are not worthy to be considered to continue working looking after new borns.
The mother must take responsibility as well. If anyone had done that to my child I would have done something to them myself before running like hell.

The last thing I would want to do is upset you further Yorkie but I think its all too easy to blame the social workers.

Yes, some of them are shit and don't care enough but the rest (of which I happen to know a couple) are daily stressed at the limits on their powers; the boxes they have to tick before they're allowed to take ANY action against ANYONE. Some of the questionable people they meet make excellent parents and vice versa. They care deeply and often wish they could do more.

The sad fact is that humanity occasionally chucks out horrible specimens and no amount of security will stop them before they act.

 

[Deleted member 2719]

I went to school with a baby murdering bastard alledgedly.

It was his step kid and when they did the postmortem they said the child was so badly bruised that they could not iniatially tell whether the child was black or white and they were also many fractures through out there body it was just a baby.

The bastard got away with just 3 years and the mum got a couple of years as i recall.


I clashed with this guy more than once, with him always being the agressor unfortunately he always had his body guards with him cos if you ever wanted to give anyone a good hiding this was the guy.


How he got away with the things he did i will never know even the local police would give him the wide birth .

Bring back hanging.

 

[somerset]

Interestingly London Boorish hasn't chipped in here, our resident social commentator is not normally short of a word or two when commenting on the ills of society, or is it because there isn't anyone obvious to call a racist or fascist.

This guy deserves all he got/gets....... the social worker/health visitors SHOULD have raised concerns after being denied access......