Whose fault is it.

[BensGrandad]

Wanted to do a poll of 3 but don't know how to do it.

Who is to blame for our current situation.

The players
Mark McGhee and the coaching staff
Dick Knight and the board.

You will notice I have avoided Falmer, LDC etc as we have had to endure this for 6 years now so should be used to it and be able to act accordingly within limited bounds.

 

[Titanic]

Who is to blame for our current situation.

The players
Mark McGhee and the coaching staff
Dick Knight and the board.

Why are any of the above 'to blame' - perhaps they are ALL DOING THE BEST POSSIBLE IN VERY DIFFICULT CIRCUMSTANCES ?

 

[Yorkie]

We may be used to it but it is accumulative.
The longer it goes on the worse the conditions get. So McGhee has bigger problems than Taylor or Coppel had.

 

[vulture]

You could blame all 3.I think like some many have said that DK has taken the club as far as he can and should step down.If u run a company and do well for 6 years then struggle for 18 months no one thinks back to those great 6 years.You are only good as your last results.MM is to blame for his signings.

 

[Jim in the West]

You will notice I have avoided Falmer, LDC etc as we have had to endure this for 6 years now so should be used to it and be able to act accordingly within limited bounds.

Er.....I think we ARE acting accordingly within limited bounds. "Acting accordingly" means not having any funds to bring players in, and having to blood youngsters (Lynch, Elphick, Gatting). We just have to face the facts that currently we are not good enough, but having just watched us play Coventry, Burnley and Leicester, I can't say that we're that much worse than them.

 

[Yorkie]

I'm sure DK would love to step down. Most men in their 70's would like to retire and play golf or something. He can do without all the criticism and hassle.

BUT who would take his place with no guarantee of a home in the next two years?

Answers on a postcard to Bens Grandad.

 

[BensGrandad]

If you ask MM and he says I had x y and z lined up but the club has no money so I couldnt sign them he is pushing the responsibility on to the club.

If you ask DK and he says there is money available then he is saying that MM hasn't found the right men at the right price.

If both of them say the players are good enough but not performing to their best ability then they are both blaming the players.

What is the general opinion of who should shoulder the reseponsibility of relegation or are they all going to say we are equally to blame in which case how do you rectify the situation. Change all 3?

 

[Yorkie]

Instead of posing the questions Bens Grandad why don't you give us the pearls of your wisdom and say what you would do.
Then we can all pull it to shreds.

 

[Titanic]

Change all 3.

You really are a complete and utter

Can't be bothered with all this bile and innuendo. I'm off to watch Rosemary and Thyme to try and calm down a bit.

You make me quite

 

[Bry Nylon]

Doesn't matter right now. Today is over but the season isn't. Have your post-mortem in May.

Right now all we can do is re-group and get ready for Tuesday.

 

[Charles 'Charley' Charles]

Whers choice 4
The fans for getting on players backs,booing and helping to cause a somewhat dispirited camp?

 

[BensGrandad]

My view for what it is worth is the blame must lie with DK and the board. Before you jump I will explain why.

They employed MM who was a well known successful manager in this division but insisted that he had to take on the existing back room staff not bring his own in, he was at his most successful when he had Archie Knox working alongside of him.


MM said in August that he needed 3 or 4 players and identified the positions as left back, central defender, midfield and striker.
6 months on he is still looking for 3 of those and I cannot believe that he has failed to identify players to fill those positions. If this is so then he has failed to carry out his managerial duties and combined with results he should have been sacked, after the cup defeat against Coventry. So the board didn't act as they should have in that instance.

The wasting of money signing Turienzo allegedly by DK and the alleged wish to keep FDM . If that is correct then DK has undermind the manager and should accept the blame and if it is not should take action against the manager for his incompetance and waste of our cash.

As in all businesses it is the directors responsibility to provide the tools of the trade not an individuals tools but the tools that are esential to him being able to carry out his duties to the best of his ability. In MMs case it is players that he needs so irrespective of the financial situation 'the board' should have made cash available to carry out the improvements and if MM cannot identify the improvements, they again needed to take the appropriate action.

We are told that there was money available to sign Tom Brighton so that same money should be available now to strgnthen the team

It all falls back on the board and DK as head of that board and as I have said they have two options and must do one or the other not just let the situation ride.

1. Beg steal or borrow the money to bring in 2 or 3 players on loan and back MM to get the right results. (£100k for Tom Brighton)

2. Appoint Dean Wilkins until the end of the season to run the first team either with the back room staff that we have already or allow him to bring in a limited number of helpers, he may possibly ask to bring in his brother Ray ( not so sure about that!). They then send MM and any other backroom staff not required on 'gardening leave 'until May and then re-assess the situation then.

I have always been anti Dick Knight as anybody knows because I didnt think that he had the money to carry this club forward to Falmer and that it was just a dream for him.

He has brought us success on the field and for that I will be eternally grateful but I believe that he has stayed around at least1 year too long and has outlived his usefulness due to his own very large ego and as such is not now acting in the best interests of the club.

People will slag me off, I know, and say he is a legend, which I cannot deny they will also say who will replace him. I do not know the answer to that question and neither does anybody else other than the man who may. Until such times as it becomes apparent that he is realistically prepared to consider moving aside, not just token if any body wants to buy the club they only have to phone me gestures, nobody will be able to answer the question but I would stake my life on it that somebody will come forward when that day arrives.

The situation now is that DK and his board are like Nero watching Rome burn they are sitting watching as we get relegated and taking no action when it is most obvious that SOMETHING MUST BE DONE VERY QUICK.

 

[BensGrandad]

You really are a complete and utter

Can't be bothered with all this bile and innuendo. I'm off to watch Rosemary and Thyme to try and calm down a bit.

You make me quite

If you wish to quote me please do me the courtesy of quoting the relevant parts of the quote not just a couple of words which change the whole context of the quote.

I would suggest not watching Rosemary and Thyme and stick to the adverts they are easier to understand.

 

[Goodfella]

Yeah, and where's the option for all the whingeing wankers on NSC, who call themselves supporters, but do nothing but knock the club unless everything is sweet and dandy.

That's the one i'm voting for.

 

[Yorkie]

I am finally going to give in and put Bens Grandad on ignore. Total waste of time reading his posts.

 

[Titanic]

If you wish to quote me please do me the courtesy of quoting the relevant parts of the quote not just a couple of words which change the whole context of the quote.

I would suggest not watching Rosemary and Thyme and stick to the adverts they are easier to understand.

If you ask MM and he says I had x y and z lined up but the club has no money so I couldnt sign them he is pushing the responsibility on to the club.

If you ask DK and he says there is money available then he is saying that MM hasn't found the right men at the right price.

If both of them say the players are good enough but not performing to their best ability then they are both blaming the players.

What is the general opinion of who should shoulder the reseponsibility of relegation or are they all going to say we are equally to blame in which case how do you rectify the situation. Change all 3?

You really are a complete and utter

Can't be bothered with all this bile and innuendo. I'm off to watch Rosemary and Thyme to try and calm down a bit.

You make me quite

Better ?

 

[vulture]

Yeah, and where's the option for all the whingeing wankers on NSC, who call themselves supporters, but do nothing but knock the club unless everything is sweet and dandy.

That's the one i'm voting for.

 

[Jim in the West]

What you are ignoring, BG, is that the last 7 or 8 years have been about getting a permanent home in Brighton. A lot of money would have been nice, but it would not have got us one inch closer to that permanent home. The plain fact is that ever since DK became chairman we have needed a strategist, a politician, and a fan as chairman, and fortunately we have had one. It would be EXTREMELY difficult to have found a better leader than Dick Knight. When Falmer is finally given the green light (after the Judicial Review), it is then that we will need money, and it is then perhaps time for Dick Knight to step aside into an honorary role. Remember, DK has done the following:

- Negotiated the removal of Bill Archer
- Brought the club home
- Achieved the virtually impossible in getting planning permission for Falmer
- Appointed four excellent managers (Adams, Taylor, Coppell, McGhee)

That is a bloody amazing track record.

We may be frustrated with the current situation, but the plain fact is that we are playing a league above our rightful position at the mo, and we just have to accept that times will be tough. We may go down, but I'm very confident that the long term future of this club is in the right hands.

 

[BensGrandad]

I am finally going to give in and put Bens Grandad on ignore. Total waste of time reading his posts.

Sorry it is not seen through Dick Knight tinted specs. Please feel free to tell me what part I have got wrong.

 

[Lokki 7]

I blame the bloody raghead asylum seekers