Who would you rather see in goal?

[Kinky Gerbil]

In the age where you can name 5 subs its an utter joke you dont name one as a keeper, if your keeper gets an injury and has to come over no matter what the score its pretty much game over.

 

[Fourteenth Eye]

Having played table football with Deano on monday i know he certainly wanted to sub me as the goalkeeper

 

[hans kraay fan club]

In the age where you can name 5 subs its an utter joke you dont name one as a keeper, if your keeper gets an injury and has to come over no matter what the score its pretty much game over.

Absolutely. Like that time when Sheff Utd were 1-0 against Arsenal last year and Kenny went off. They had to stick an outfield player in goal for 70 odd minutes.

God knows what the final score was.

 

[Da Man Clay]

Absolutely. Like that time when Sheff Utd were 1-0 against Arsenal last year and Kenny went off. They had to stick an outfield player in goal for 70 odd minutes.

God knows what the final score was.

Sheffield United are a bit different as Michael Tounge is quite a good goalkeeper, our criteria is that they have "a bit of agility".

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Sheffield United are a bit different as Michael Tounge is quite a good goalkeeper, our criteria is that they have "a bit of agility".

Is he? Why did they put Phil Jagielka in goal then?

 

[Da Man Clay]

Is he? Why did they put Phil Jagielka in goal then?

or Jagielka!

 

[hans kraay fan club]

The thing is Chris, there is not actually any special secret to goalkeeping. Its not a black art or anything. Of course a proper keeper will be better positioned, come for crosses, know when to come off their line, and all those other goalkeeper bits! but for a fit player with decent reflexes and a bit of guts, playing in goal for 45 minutes doesn't pose much of an issue.

At a feeble amateur level - look at our tournament last summer. As well you know I'm a defender. Up until that day I'd not played in goal since three games 18 years ago. Our keeper didn't show up, so I went in, and the end results were good enough to see your team crash out!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Is he? Why did they put Phil Jagielka in goal then?

Jagielka is good enough to be a pro keeper!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

The thing is Chris, there is not actually any special secret to goalkeeping. Its not a black art or anything. Of course a proper keeper will be better positioned, come for crosses, know when to come off their line, and all those other goalkeeper bits! but for a fit player with decent reflexes and a bit of guts, playing in goal for 45 minutes doesn't pose much of an issue.

At a feeble amateur level - look at our tournament last summer. As well you know I'm a defender. Up until that day I'd not played in goal since three games 18 years ago. Our keeper didn't show up, so I went in, and the end results were good enough to see your team crash out!

I think its a tad different in league football. you see the effects if a proper keeper misjudges something, and someone who isnt a keeper is going to misjudge a lot more.

 

[Da Man Clay]

The thing is Chris, there is not actually any special secret to goalkeeping. Its not a black art or anything. Of course a proper keeper will be better positioned, come for crosses, know when to come off their line, and all those other goalkeeper bits! but for a fit player with decent reflexes and a bit of guts, playing in goal for 45 minutes doesn't pose much of an issue.

At a feeble amateur level - look at our tournament last summer. As well you know I'm a defender. Up until that day I'd not played in goal since three games 18 years ago. Our keeper didn't show up, so I went in, and the end results were good enough to see your team crash out!

Indeed, however you were facing the likes of me! As you well know from our Doncaster games im not consistantly the best in front of goal!

I think at league level when you can pick 5 substitues its madness not to have a keeper on the bench, when you are playing against league quality strikers its just plain stupid to blindly hope either our striker or midfielder will have a decent game in goal.

 

[Silent Bob]

I was standing behind the goal at Torquay whilst Michel was warming up before the game. With the very last kick of the session he dived to his right to fend away a ball heading low into the corner. It was drilled but he managed to get an arm out to it.

At the time I remember thinking "this is a strong guy" because the balls was travelling and he'd managed to block it out with a very strong arm.

However, as the ball hit him, he shouted out and immediately pulled his arm away. He looked very uncomfortable and ended the session cradling his arm and walking off chatting to the physio.

If he had been injured in the warm up, we'd have been forced to play the whole match without a recognised keeper. He was called upon to make a couple of smart saves in that match. Would Fraser have done so?

If he'd been injured in the warm up we could bring another keeper in couldn't we?

 

[BensGrandad]

If he'd been injured in the warm up we could bring another keeper in couldn't we?

As happened a few years ago at Charlton when Chivers started the game in goal whilst the reserve keeper (Digweed?) can't rememberwho exactly, got changed and came on after 5 mins.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

If he'd been injured in the warm up we could bring another keeper in couldn't we?

I think that depends if the team sheet has been handed in or not

 

[Couldn't Be Hyypia]

Correct

 

[hans kraay fan club]

I think that depends if the team sheet has been handed in or not

Which is why the team sheet is not handed in until after the warm up.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Which is why the team sheet is not handed in until after the warm up.

Not always the case sadly!

 

[Simster]

In the age where you can name 5 subs its an utter joke you dont name one as a keeper, if your keeper gets an injury and has to come over no matter what the score its pretty much game over.

In fairness, I'm not sure that's actually true. It simply means that the game has changed because managers now have five ways of changing the game rather than one or two.

I'm not sure what to make of this idea, but I like the fact DW is thinking outside the box. Of course, 99 times out of 100 you wouldn't replace your keeper so you could easily argue that a keeper is a waste of a sub. Unfortunately, Sullivan is unlikely to see it this way and that is a worry in terms of man management of the squad. I think that could be more damaging than the decision itself is ever likely to be.

 

[hans kraay fan club]

Away from the general point of 'an outfield player' in goal, what is amusing is the specific choice of Savage. It would be interesting to see what the least co-ordinated player in the squad would bring to the art of goalkeeping!

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

In fairness, I'm not sure that's actually true. It simply means that the game has changed because managers now have five ways of changing the game rather than one or two.

I'm not sure what to make of this idea, but I like the fact DW is thinking outside the box. Of course, 99 times out of 100 you wouldn't replace your keeper so you could easily argue that a keeper is a waste of a sub. Unfortunately, Sullivan is unlikely to see it this way and that is a worry in terms of man management of the squad. I think that could be more damaging than the decision itself is ever likely to be.

I see where you are coming from however if you have players like Reid on the bench he can play in 3 positions well you should have enough with four subs to be able to change the game?

If you have a bench of Robinson, Reid, Revell and Butters that pretty much has everything you need.

You are right about 99 out of 100 times not needing a keeper but sods law is such that when it happens its a key game.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Away from the general point of 'an outfield player' in goal, what is amusing is the specific choice of Savage. It would be interesting to see what the least co-ordinated player in the squad would bring to the art of goalkeeping!

The black Mark Walton?